Logical, not "chicken little the sky is falling" thinking. Thanks DonC. I hate companies being gutted without evidence.
And I agree, if I had dogs - especially prone to the disorder -- on just grain-free, I might switch for added protection.
So confused about the best food!
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Spencer is lucky you are so inventive! Chicken and veggie pizza sounds delish!
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OK, busted! I like the chicken pizza, fish tacos and spaghetti and muttballs, too.
But there are nights when I wish he would just eat his kibble out of a bowl like other dogs.
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so we were using kirkland for a while and decided after reading here to try some dif foods !
she would hardly eat her food we always had to hop it up with stuffabout 3 months ago we went and picked up Orijen and taste of the wild to compare to the kirkland (this was pre recall)
decided to let Hana tell us what she liked the most so we did some one kibble in each hand let her sniff it and then backed up ten feet let her come up and decide with our hands about 6 inches apart which hand she prodded
out of 11 tries she picked the orijen each time over the taste of the wild we even swapped hands etc..while expensive we seem to be able to feed her less and she is doing well on it
she of course is getting a little picky already again waiting for that fresh chicken etc.. in her meals but happy with the Orijenafter the recall makes me nervous the taste of the wild was on the list !
their was one other food the pet store brought in that she liked along with the orijen ? forgot the name of it but going to go back and check that out also ?
OH we picked up both the fish and the meat varieties of each and she did not seem to like either of the fish ones ? only the red meat varieties
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As you probably already know the Orijen is much higher in protein than the Taste of the wild. We mentioned before we stuck with Evo for our new puppy even though they were sold to P&G. Since the formula and manufacturing plant or process has not changed, we felt it was a safe bet.
Even so we still investigated other foods. The top three on our list for dry dog food is Evo, Orijen, and Fromms. Evo has better availability than Orijen does. Evo and Orijen are higher in protein than Fromms. All three mentioned contain Dha which we felt was important to us and our puppy.
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I will say that from personal experience- Oakleys sensative and picky to foods and while High protein seems to trigger loose stools he did well on te Orijen…I still choose Fromms because it is lower protein and because they're family owned and operated and have never been part of a recall. Recently I emailed them because I bought Oakley a bag of food and coincidentally he was sick the same day, I emailed them and thy assured me thy had no recalls and furthermore, they would investigate the batch number to quell my fears... Turned out not to be the food but they were so helpful and transparent that it made me feel I was dealing with an honest company..plus Oakleys coat is as shiny and soft as ever ( he has been blessed with a great short coat anyways). Occasionally I'll rotate in a small bag of the Orijen in the winter but for us its Fromms all the way
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The people at Fromms are good people. We have spoken with them as well as people at both the other companies mentioned.
From our experience we know that when you feed a higher protein food, one of the side effects of over feeding can be loose stools. Exercise and hot weather can also cause loose stools.
When it comes to food, the protein level is only one factor to be concerned with. The digestibility of the protein as well as the digestibility of the whole food are important. For puppies, you need to consider fat levels as well. Fiber and Dha are two other factors for consideration as well,
So even though the protein in a Fromms food might be lower, if the digestibility of that protein has a higher percentage ratio then it can be just as effective a food as one with much high protein levels and less percentage of digestibility ratio.
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Does anyone know where I can get Fromm's in either the west coast of Canada or the pacific northwest area of Washington state? I am batting zero trying to find it in the Vancouver lower mainland area.
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I get Oakleys through doggiefood.com and they do free shipping over 49.99 anywhere in the US…I don't know about Canada though? I get mine quickly ALWAYS, with good expirations and they always respect I don't want packing peanuts in my order...and they substitute the shippin material with no issues! Not to mention it saves me from driving to have to get his food which even the closest location isnt convenient. I really do love Fromms!!
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Fran, I also pulled this from the frommsfamily.com website:
**Canada Authorized Distributor
Tri-Natural Pet Products
www.trinatural.com
info@trinatural.com
1-800-267-6028
Established in 1991, Tri-Natural Products Inc. is a leading Canadian importer and wholesaler of innovative, premium holistic and wellness products for humans and companion animals.Find a Store in Canada Near You
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Fran, I also pulled this from the frommsfamily.com website:
**Canada Authorized Distributor
Tri-Natural Pet Products
www.trinatural.com
info@trinatural.com
1-800-267-6028
Established in 1991, Tri-Natural Products Inc. is a leading Canadian importer and wholesaler of innovative, premium holistic and wellness products for humans and companion animals.Find a Store in Canada Near You
Chealsie508, thank you so much. I'll be calling a few stores near me tomorrow to confirm they have it in stock!
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Let me know if kipawa likes it! Oakleys finicky and has no issues at all, even with the "salmon tunalini" ( fish isn't his favorite)
The Fromms treats are also a hit at our house, Parmesan cheese low fat treats or the cheddar biscuits!
