@jengosmonkey
LOL this is a really important convo to be having! I'm honored that it takes place on my thread 😆 and yes, I absolutely agree with the points y'all are making.
People do need to know where their pups are coming from and whether they were responsibly bred. To think of it coldly, I wouldn't buy a house without looking into its history and possible problems, or I might face ridiculous stress, expense, and emotional trauma from subsequent issues that come up later. As a consumer, one should do their homework not only on the breed but on the breeder.
A breeder who produces puppies carelessly is basically a horrible human being in my book. It was a huge, thoroughly thought out moral decision for me not to adopt but to buy a purebred puppy, as I've worked with rescues before. I took this step with the possible goal of being a custodian. If a breeder is irresponsible in all the aforementioned ways, not only are they producing dogs with a higher possibility of suffering, muddying this ancient breed, and swindling people, they are needlessly taking potential homes away from dogs that need one AND frequently causing dogs to be abandoned! If there weren't any PMs or BYBs, imagine how many people would get schooled by rescue folk and responsible breeders into taking dog-parenting seriously before they ever took one home!
Sorry for the rant; I COMPLETELY understand the internal screaming that happens within some of you when you find out a pup is from a mill or crap breeder. If people like you and I keep yelling about it, we will change a few minds, which make all the difference to a few dogs which is better than no dogs 🙂
Hello! From White Rock BC!
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First, I haven't said welcome to the forums!!
I'm with Pat on the bathing. Mine hardly ever get a bath. The younger ones do simply because they play and when they play, especially with the boxer. they get spit all over each other and then they end up stinking. So they get a bath more often. My old boy (who really isn't that old) gets a bath maybe once or twice a year. My older girl is the same.
As for the dremel. I use it on my dogs, but I also use the clippers. So it ends up being personal preference. I'm adept at both because I groom as well and using a dremel on some dogs just takes to long. But it is nice to use if you can because you don't end up with all the sharp edges that a clipper leaves. If you are consistently trimming their nails once a week or every two weeks, then a dremel is better.
brushing their teeth is important as well and every dog has different levels of plaque build-up. My younger male has pearly whites, my older boy has not too bad teeth (they are nice and clean), but my one girl I am constantly trying to clean them. I use a cleaning product with no alcohol base and she gets denta stix as well as brushing.As for watching all the shows about taking care of your pets, (I am aware of who Brad is and I like him better than someone else who is really, really popular-he seems to me more real-if that makes any sense) remember, these people are taking care of domesticated animals that, ultimately, want to please their owner. I don't find Basenji's care if they please you or not. It's all about what's in it for them. But, everyone has a different opinon.
Good luck in your search!
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Welcome to the forum! Basenjis are not "high maintenance" dogs, at least not in the grooming department. Mine have seldom needed bathing. My own personal approach to nails is that if they don't wear them down on the road I clip them and finish them with a file, no rough edges. Bones are good for keeping teeth clean, but I use a scaler from time to time to remove excess tartar. It's a good idea to get a pup used to everything you think you might ever need to do. There shouldn't be any "don't go there" areas on his/her body. Ears and anal glands are other things you may need to attend to from time to time.
I hope you have been reading posts on this forum extensively. Basenjis are charming, but they can be big trouble and you need to be prepared for whatever comes your way. They do seem to require a fair amount of dedication and an owner who doesn't give up easily when things don't go as planned.
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Brad and good ol' Cesar Millan! haha
These are really good tips, thanks everyone. I wonder if there's a owner training program!
One concern I do have is having a dog that doesn't trust me or like to be touched in somewhere specific. The last dog I had… well my family had him not me. I think I was 7 when we got him as a puppy. He ended up having quite a bit of health issues and my dad was diagnosed with MS so looking back, my parents had no right getting a dog which I still carry some anger about actually all these years later even though there was nothing I can do. ANYWAYS! Point being, it was difficult to pick him up to have a bath even, he didn't like that ever... would always growl or nip. Especially if you were a lil cautious. And my dad was very angry with his slowly deteoriating disease and took it out on the family including the dog. That did not help. He could of had a better life (I'll save that for another thread!) I don't want to go rhrough anything like that again, and I'm dedicated to give whichever dog I end up with the best life possible, won't settle for anything else.
I still have time to meet some Basenjis and continue my research about them and from owners to find out more about preparation. I really appreciate everyones feedback -
Also, I am looking for a companion… not a show dog, or expected to be a show dog
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Regarding having a dog that does not mind being touched - that is one of the reasons why you may want a dog from a reputable breeder. They spend time handling the puppies, grooming nails, dropping pots and pans in the house, having them meet babies, children, older people, wheelchairs, etc. etc., so that when you get your dog, you can feel comfortable knowing that they have experienced a number of different events/situations BEFORE you get them.
I can do ANYTHING with Kipawa. Touch him anywhere, clean his ears, bathe him if he rolls in slough water or gets muddy all over, carry him on his back like a baby, kiss him on the face with complete trust he won't do anything to me…. I have yet to find something he doesn't like or is apprehensive about. This kind of training and socialization is so important when they are young, and it makes for a wonderful dog. Everyone who comes into our house is an immediate friend, and of course potential for a snack, though we control his food intake very carefully. But after all, he is a basenji - very food driven, and he needs to make sure anyone entering the house isn't there just to give him a snack!
Don't get me wrong - I DO support rescue, but as Kipawa was our first basenji (and because we wanted a puppy) I wanted to go through a breeder. Yes, puppies take work, but as my husband and I have retired early (we're in our youthful early 50's and still listen to CFOX!) we knew that we had the time.
Toe nails - we used a dremel (grinder) from day 1. Kipawa's breeders had him used to the dremel when we got him.
Bathing - only if extremely dirty. Basenjis will self clean themselves, much like a cat. If Kipawa gets a little dirty, I use a low sudsing puppy/sensitive skin shampoo. I pour a little on a towel, suds up the towel, rinse most of the suds out, and then wipe him.Coat condition - good kibble, additional veggies, light brushing with a soft curry comb and Omega oil on his food keep his coat in great condition. I find the omega oil (human grade) prevents any flaking of his coat.
Teeth - we brush once a week and use a product called PlaqueOff (a kelp powder added to his food) in each of his two feedings a day. His teeth are in awesome condition and his breath smells good.
Training - Kipawa has had puppy socialization and puppy obedience classes. In these classes, he was used to make apprehensive dogs feel more at ease. His father, named Sober, has this quality. Sober is said to have a 'soberizing effect over new litters'. Kipawa is following in his dad's footsteps.
And finally.... I apologize to everyone on this forum for bragging about my Kipawa so much! But he is truly as good as I say, and he has enriched our lives so much. I get to do my 'mothering role' with him, as I have never had children. Freud would find me a very interesting case study!
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Welcome to the forum from the UK. I hope you find your Basenji soon and a great idea to take on a rescue. It's really nice that you have a member who lives near and who is willing to let you visit. Visiting a family with a Basenji Is the best way to find out about the breed inmy opinion.
For myself I'm totally against bathing unless absolutely necessary - just that its a good idea to have them used to bathing in case a necessity happens!! Mine get bathed occasionally.
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Hi. As someone mentioned, lot of breeders place their show dogs after few years. We flew in one from PEI last summer. He is a wonderful, well behaved and socialized basenji. It literally took him a day to get used to us. We love him. So, that is another option. We have two, male and female, do take them to white rock beach often.
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So I guess the upside to finding a good breeder and a puppy is you have better guaranteed expectations of the puppy and doing your own training as they grow up. Whereas, with a rescue sometimes their history is unknown and they may have some issues, which hopefully can be sorted out. Retired show dog would probably be the best bet all around! But maybe that limits myself more to dogs available? I still consider a rescue
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Have you tried contacting Terrarust Basenjis in BC (Terray is a BCOA member and they have a website I believe). They may have adults/young adults looking for a home. Or if you are looking for a puppy, I don't know if they bred any pups this year, but you could inquire.
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Have you tried contacting Terrarust Basenjis in BC (Terray is a BCOA member and they have a website I believe). They may have adults/young adults looking for a home. Or if you are looking for a puppy, I don't know if they bred any pups this year, but you could inquire.
Terray did not have a littler of pups this year for Basenji's, she did have a couple litters of Labs though. Simone is back in BC also and I know she had a couple of litters but I believe they are all spoken for. You can contact her as well . www.beaubri.com
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yes Thank you! I contacted Simone last week and went there to meet a couple male basenjies… Hoping to pursue with one of them Thanks everyone