• LOL, ewww.


  • @Patty:

    Robyn, what a funny story! I understand everyone's concerns, and I'm sure Robyn has taken precautions to make sure it doesn't happen againโ€ฆ 20/20 hindsight....

    My sister has two basenjis and brought her girl, Becca to the car... went back upstairs to get Bacchus, and even though she was gone less than 10 minutes, Becca got ticked off and decided to poop in the backseat... and then step in it... and then traipse to the front of the car... and then look out the windows with her front paws.... my sister was SO ticked when she called me! Laughed later, but at the time, she was surely in a $hitty mood, lol. ๐Ÿ™‚

    Wow, that stinks! ๐Ÿ˜ƒ Actually she probably just got excited and had to go. I had a rw Basenji that used to get so excited when I take him somewhere that if I didn't have him poop first he would go in the back of my truck.


  • @nobarkus:

    Isn't that dangerous for Raine to be able to go over and/or jump up on that fence with a cable hooked to him? If the cable got caught on the top of that fence he could hang himself or cause serious injury. Lisa Voss posted a link to Coyote rollers which I think is a better option.
    http://www.coyoteroller.com/home

    I am the one who made and installed the fence rollers on my porch. They did not work with Rainie because he does not climb the fence. He jumps up and hooks his chest over the rollers then goes over.

    The cable is 20' long. The fence is 4' high. The chance of choking is pretty slim though there is a potential.

    Escaping the yard is the main reason why I have been trying to find this dog a home for months. I hate tying up a dog but it's either tie him or let him get squashed by a car or stolen.


  • @YodelDogs:

    I am the one who made and installed the fence rollers on my porch. They did not work with Rainie because he does not climb the fence. He jumps up and hooks his chest over the rollers then goes over.

    The cable is 20' long. The fence is 4' high. The chance of choking is pretty slim though there is a potential.

    Escaping the yard is the main reason why I have been trying to find this dog a home for months. I hate tying up a dog but it's either tie him or let him get squashed by a car or stolen.

    Can you make the length of the cable so he can only get to or near the fence but not over?


  • @nobarkus:

    Can you make the length of the cable so he can only get to or near the fence but not over?

    Not with the way my yard is configured.


  • Robyn you live my nightmare. ๐Ÿ˜ž When I first got a basenji I bought the electric hotwire caps and stuff to put on my fence. Fortunately none so far have climbed. My fence, however, is 6 ft and my male rottie once (I was on the other side of the fence) .. FLAT FOOTED, not running jump, simply LEAPED in the air and hooked his feet over the top. He hung there a sec as if to say "nah nah" to me, then dropped. Fortunately he never did it again.

    The other option of course is an underground system. since he is your only issue, you'd only need one collar. The inward leaning things are what I looked at after the Connor incident. They fit on the top of the fence, extensions that lean inward so the dogs can't go over them.


  • The good thing is Raine stuck around and came back. All my Basenjis only escaped 1-2 times when they were pups but stuck around only going to the neighbors and back. I've had 2 Basenjis get out all day and when I got home they were waiting in the driveway and porch. Back in 1980 I was renting a house with 2 irresponsible guys and my Basenji Nipper just didn't care to live there (she sensed I should move out out) and got out while I was at work. I worked 1 hour away. The landlady lived next door and called me at work to say that Nipper was out and she was just sitting in the driveway waiting for me. When I got home there she was just sitting in the driveway waiting. Can't ask for a better Basenji!


  • I thought I was sharing a story of a clever and sneaky Basenji yet for some reason my post turned into an advice column. Perhaps I could understand if I was a brand new poster that no one knew but I am not. (See upper right corner of post where it shows that I have been an active member for 4 1/2 years.) I certainly do not expect people to know who I am but for anyone who is curious, I do have a link in my signature. What I am trying to say is that I am not a rank novice Basenji owner. I know it may come off as conceited but I really do have more hands-on experience with this breed than all but a handfull of people on this forum.

    The decision to use a cable with this dog was not a spur-of-the-moment, I'm-too-lazy-to-do-anything-else decision. I have explored every avenue of confinement and although I hardly consider it to be ideal, a cable is the most sensible solution for this situation at this time.

    I understand now why so many members have retreated to "lurker mode". I was in a humorous mood when I made my post. Now, not so much. ๐Ÿ˜ž


  • @YodelDogs:

    I thought I was sharing a story of a clever and sneaky Basenji yet for some reason my post turned into an advice column. Perhaps I could understand if I was a brand new poster that no one knew but I am not. (See upper right corner of post where it shows that I have been an active member for 4 1/2 years.) I certainly do not expect people to know who I am but for anyone who is curious, I do have a link in my signature. What I am trying to say is that I am not a rank novice Basenji owner. I know it may come off as conceited but I really do have more hands-on experience with this breed than all but a handfull of people on this forum.

    The decision to use a cable with this dog was not a spur-of-the-moment, I'm-too-lazy-to-do-anything-else decision. I have explored every avenue of confinement and although I hardly consider it to be ideal, a cable is the most sensible solution for this situation at this time.

    I understand now why so many members have retreated to "lurker mode". I was in a humorous mood when I made my post. Now, not so much. ๐Ÿ˜ž

    Robyn, I apologize if you felt my question was an attack on you or your credibility. But being it's a forum we do ask questions. I don't know your yard or situation as far as your options to contain Raine. From what info you gave I just had a concern and so I asked. You can then have the chance to answer my question or not answer it. Sorry again if I ruined your mood.


  • Don't worry about it Robyn-those of us know it can happen at anytime to anyone. No matter the years of experience. I understand why you did the cable thing as I've been to your place. In certain areas, there are 'restrictions' placed on property owners regarding fencing, etc. as well. I'm lucky. I live in the middle of nowhere (we call it lower podunkville) and I've left the top of my fence loose so that when Sugar climbs, she can't get over the top.

    I can just see Raine sitting there with the big, clever little grin on his face! I know that look well. I have two of yours! Shadow has perfected the grin.


  • @DebraDownSouth:

    The other option of course is an underground system. since he is your only issue, you'd only need one collar. The inward leaning things are what I looked at after the Connor incident. They fit on the top of the fence, extensions that lean inward so the dogs can't go over them.

    Debra, what is the name of this product? There is probably a little area in my backyard that would need something like this, near a small pond that is built up, thus making the fence height only about 4 feet.


  • Robyn, I've been a Basenji owner since 1969 probably longer than most folks on here but every time I offer advice one person here says that because I'm not a breeder my opinions don't count. That's why I seldom post anymore. I always appreciate your advice. I'm so glad your guy came back and wasn't hurt. Lenora and Abbey who turned 7 on Christmas Day


  • @Lenora:

    Robyn, I've been a Basenji owner since 1969 probably longer than most folks on here but every time I offer advice one person here says that because I'm not a breeder my opinions don't count. That's why I seldom post anymore. I always appreciate your advice. I'm so glad your guy came back and wasn't hurt. Lenora and Abbey who turned 7 on Christmas Day

    Lenora, this forum does not be belong to that person. I ask that person "where does it say in the forum rules that non breeders opinions don't count"?? Exactly, there is no such rule. I hereby state that your opinion is valued!
    Anyway talks about fencing and escape proofing our yards is a good thing we can all learn from. That pic of Raine on the fence is a good one to enter for next years BRAT calender.


  • @YodelDogs:

    Escaping the yard is the main reason why I have been trying to find this dog a home for months. I hate tying up a dog but it's either tie him or let him get squashed by a car or stolen.

    If we were closer to you, we'd take him since we don't have a fence to worry about! :rolleyes:

    For all but 3 years of Maxx's life we were fulltime RVers, which meant we didn't have a yard with a fenceโ€ฆso we took him on several long walks each day.

    We bought a house this past spring and now split our time between Washington State and Arizona, but still don't have a fenced yard in either place...so we're still taking our dog (a 7-month old Brussels Griffon) on long walks and will continue to do so with whatever Basenji we get (of course, the definition of "long" is different to a little Brussels Griffon than it is to a Basenji! ๐Ÿ˜‰ ).


  • The value of advice will vary. Sometimes people who have been doing it longest don't have the best advice if they haven't kept up to date with current knowledge and technology. Experience will also vary dependent on where you live, in this area of the country there are many town and counties where it is illegal to leave a dog on a tie out unsupervised. Each person must decide what the value of the advice given is. Each person must also realize that often the information given in a forum post is not a complete picture of the situation.


  • @Lenora:

    Robyn, I've been a Basenji owner since 1969 probably longer than most folks on here but every time I offer advice one person here says that because I'm not a breeder my opinions don't count. That's why I seldom post anymore. I always appreciate your advice. I'm so glad your guy came back and wasn't hurt. Lenora and Abbey who turned 7 on Christmas Day

    And I disagree that your opinion or ideas don't count because you are not a breeder โ€ฆ. it is all of us that live day to day with these "critters" that have seen all the different things they can do, get into... and ways resolved. Everyone has experiences that depending on the situation could be the solution for someone else. Breeders and Pet owners, as really, most of the breeders that are on this Forum are Pet owners too!


  • Whether you are brand new or got the first basenji imported into the country, it doesn't mean you are so perfect or knowledgeable that others might not POSSIBLY have an idea you didn't think of.

    Even if not one person said one thing you didn't already know or think of, your taking it personally as an insult surprises me. At the very WORSE it was a waste to read it for you, but possibly educational for others with similar issues.

    I was also surprised by the picture because the possibility of it catching and choking him to death seemed obvious to me. MAYBE obvious to me since I had a friend whose dog went over a railing while on a line and choked to death. But nothing here was said as an insult to you, it was attempting to offer safer options. I have had dogs for nearly my entire life, doesn't mean I don't find GOOD advice. And sometimes from utter novices who just HAPPEN to see or think of something I didn't.

    No one was attacking you. People who CARE assumed you might not have considered the danger or considered some options we thought of. I ASSUMED you simply hadn't considered it was risky. We all come from different angles, and no one here was doing more than showing concern and trying to share what we know.


  • @Kipawa:

    Debra, what is the name of this product? There is probably a little area in my backyard that would need something like this, near a small pond that is built up, thus making the fence height only about 4 feet.

    Fran they are fence extension kits. The ones I looked at were inward leaning.

    This one has ones at horizontal level but the ones I looked at 10 yrs ago were 45 degrees
    http://www.dogsdeservebetter.com/clova.html

    This one uses barbed wire, but you can use plain wire or fencing
    http://www.inetdesign.com/wolfdunn/containment/barbarms.html


  • @DebraDownSouth:

    Fran they are fence extension kits. The ones I looked at were inward leaning.

    This one has ones at horizontal level but the ones I looked at 10 yrs ago were 45 degrees
    http://www.dogsdeservebetter.com/clova.html

    This one uses barbed wire, but you can use plain wire or fencing
    http://www.inetdesign.com/wolfdunn/containment/barbarms.html

    Thanks so much, Debra. Will DEFINITELY look into these.


  • That sucks that Rainie got the "jumper" genes. Glad he came back in the fence. I wonder how he broke the cable.

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