Planned Breeding at Illusion

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  • Houston

    So it is official, Terry? So exciting, congrats..
    Yes, show us how pretty Amina and Charro are..;):):D


  • pictures of the future parents please :D


  • How exciting! Good luck!


  • Did Pat have Charro's sperm count checked yet? She needs to have that done and have a report by the Vet of his sperm count to register the pups. I bred to a 14yr old years ago with my Mickii, one live breeding, one AI, we had 4 puppies.


  • Congrats! hoping for great pups!


  • Pat is going to make the appt. to have his count checked. Haven't had a chance to speak with her lately, so I'm not sure if it's done yet. But if we don't connect before then, I know I'll see her at the Reliant Cluster. Worst case scenario, his son "CJ" is available and local also. Our first choice to breed to Amina was our Charro son Dude, but unfortunately he is a carrier….

    I will try to post pictures, may or may not be able to do it...


  • @Terry:

    We are hoping for a breeding this year between our brindle girl Ch. Illusion's Mlia Amina and DC Ch Berimo's Roustabout, SC (black and white)

    I say hoping because Amina is 5 years old and Charro is 14. Charro did sire a litter last year, so we're keeping our fingers crossed he's still viable! Amina is a probable carrier, and Charro is probable clear. Both have good hips, and Amina also has normal patellas and elbows. We'll be doing her eyes as soon as we make contact with the veterinary opthamologist here in Texas.

    At this point we have 3-4 potential homes (not counting us!) for the puppies. We would expect brindles, blacks and maybe even reds.

    Wish us luck!

    Terry

    Nice! I love Charro. Good luck :)


  • Went to the AKC website to try to find the regulation about testing older sires and couldn't find it, so I e-mailed them. If they are 12 yrs old or more at time of breeding, they require a vet certified sperm count or the litter can't be registered. Seems kind of silly - if the girl is pregnant, obviously the male's count is adequate, and if she's not, there's no litter to register!

    Sometimes I think they make rules just so they'll look like they're doing something…

    Terry


  • Actually, the rule was so that people wouldn't use a younger, perhaps not as accomplished sire, as a stand in for the older male. What is silly is that DNA is a whole lot better way to check to make sure that isn't being done then just a sperm count.


  • @lvoss:

    Actually, the rule was so that people wouldn't use a younger, perhaps not as accomplished sire, as a stand in for the older male. What is silly is that DNA is a whole lot better way to check to make sure that isn't being done then just a sperm count.

    My personal opinion is that DNA should be required… instead of sperm count, but I know that the sperm count rule has been in effect before AKC started doing DNA for parentage.... so maybe they need to "update"


  • Seems like the DNA sample would be easier to get too. :rolleyes: I guess the advantage of the sperm count is that you at least know if the sire is fertile or not.

    Good luck, can't wait to see pictures of the pups to be.

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