New update: Tika is no longer in heat! Yay! Remy got neutered and is doing great! We got a dog trainer to come in assess the situation and she thinks it is starting to improve compared to how I described it when I booked her to come. Only Maia seems to need the muzzle, she seems to be very unsure of the puppy. We are working with her to build her confidence. The puppy doesn’t seem to have any stress with Maia around and won’t start anything. The muzzle is on just in case when I am home alone as I don’t want anything bad to happen when if I can’t separate them. The puppy is getting lots of training time to help her learn how to behave properly. With 2 people here we can have the girls on short leashes and they are fine together. They did have a small altercation of snarling but no biting and no one got hurt. The older female backed down and walked away. As much as I want her to be the top dog it seems that the puppy has a much more dominant personality. If they figure out the pack hierchy hopefully everything will settle down. The trainer says there are no pack instincts in domesticated dogs, but after having 6 basenjis I can’t agree with that in regards to basenjis. We can walk the girls together without muzzles now so I think things are more positive and they seem to be improving every day. When Remy is healed from his neuter I will get the puppy spayed and hope that calms things down even further. So far there is a lot more peace in the house. Please anyone let me know if there is anything else I should be doing to keep these girls on track. Thank you for all your advice and guidance! I am so grateful for this forum as what is normal for other dogs is not so much with these guys!
Wondering if they're really basenji mix..
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Oh I'm sure those are the same dogs : ) Theia was nearly completely black. Just wanted you all to see how adorable they were when they were babies. The only tentative picture I have of the dad is a really close up picture of his head. I've attached it but am not sure whether or not it is helpful.
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Andrea that makes sense, and the middle pic, yep does look very gsd.
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Thank you for posting the picture of Dad. In my opinion he is certainly not a pure Basenji. No matter they are still very charming dogs and I'm sure you love them.
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The noises they make are unique & unforgettable! My Nala baroos for my husband almost every evening when he comes home. She has graced my only a handful of times. She has barked twice, to my knowledge. It is my understanding that Basenji's do bark. When the breed was being perfected in Africa for hunting, the hunters chose to breed the dogs that barked the least until they got what we have today. I am by no means an expert. I just read that about them…
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I shouldn't say they do bark. I should say they are able to bark.
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The noises they make are unique & unforgettable! My Nala baroos for my husband almost every evening when he comes home. She has graced my only a handful of times. She has barked twice, to my knowledge. It is my understanding that Basenji's do bark. When the breed was being perfected in Africa for hunting, the hunters chose to breed the dogs that barked the least until they got what we have today. I am by no means an expert. I just read that about them…
I would probably disagree with that theory. I have read that their vocal chords are shaped differently, so when they do bark…it is more of a singular "boof"...instead of a "woof, woof, woof". This is pretty typical of primitive type dogs. I doubt that Africans spent much time selectively breeding dogs that don't bark...in that situation, if you were going to select for anything, it would be effective hunting...barking wouldn't really matter, in fact it would probably make it easier to find/follow them in the jungle.
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I totally agree with Andrea. Basenjis have a different shaped voice box to many other dogs and it's most unlikely that they are barkless by selection. In my opiinon which is also the opinion of others they are descendants of a barkless animal.
There has so much been written about Basenjis but it is not all accurate.
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I truly would wonder about any really barking basenji… I'd like a dna test on that, lol.
That said, Cara boofs a lot. A whole lot. She likes to boof. Boof.................. boof......... boof. It is almost like she is trying to teach the neighbors barking dogs that they do it WRONG with that woofwoofwoof nonsense.
Ditto on breed selection for not barking... probably not.
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Okay, I didn't mean to offend anyone. Nala has let out a "bark like" noise once or twice. 1 noise. Not a woofwoofwoof… I don't think she spelled it with a "w" or a "b". I read the selective breeding thing somewhere on the internet. I'm sure we here in the USA are not the only ones to breed for certain characteristics. I'm also pretty sure it wasn't just for the noises. Unlike hunting here with Braking & baying dogs, the game there is quite different. I just wanted to share something I read. Didn't intend to start a debate or argument. I'm a little sorry I shared at all
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Okay, I didn't mean to offend anyone. Nala has let out a "bark like" noise once or twice. 1 noise. Not a woofwoofwoof… I don't think she spelled it with a "w" or a "b". I read the selective breeding thing somewhere on the internet. I'm sure we here in the USA are not the only ones to breed for certain characteristics. I'm also pretty sure it wasn't just for the noises. Unlike hunting here with Braking & baying dogs, the game there is quite different. I just wanted to share something I read. Didn't intend to start a debate or argument. I'm a little sorry I shared at all
I think you might have misread my tone
I wasn't arguing. I have read that info as well…but there is a lot of conflicting info out there about Basenjis. And I just wanted to provide you with more/different info. I didn't mean my comments to be in regard to your dogs at all....they definitely could woof, or boof and be part Basenji.Don't be sorry you shared
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My Magnum will bark when amazingly startled. One bark. In the 6 years he's been with us, we've heard it about a half dozen times…startled us more than him. I don't think he likes to (maybe it hurts?)...maybe he feels it's unseemly :D, but he can and will bark if he feels the need. I am completely sure he's purely bred.
I need to do some research on the differently-shaped voice box. I've only heard tell of it, haven't seen the physicality of their voice box as compared to other breeds.
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My Magnum will bark when amazingly startled. One bark. In the 6 years he's been with us, we've heard it about a half dozen times…startled us more than him. I don't think he likes to (maybe it hurts?)...maybe he feels it's unseemly :D, but he can and will bark if he feels the need. I am completely sure he's purely bred.
I need to do some research on the differently-shaped voice box. I've only heard tell of it, haven't seen the physicality of their voice box as compared to other breeds.
One of the reference books has a diagram…but I can't remember which one. Quite a few of mine have done a alarm bark. And I have definitely heard of (and experienced) a basenji that lives with barking dogs is more likely to "boof...boof.....boof"
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Antialoops - like Andrea I was only passing on information - it was a good question. I hope I didn't sound corrective - I certainly didn't mean to!
It is an interesting debate and there is quite a lot written about the Basenji that isn't entirely accurate. Feeling about Basenjis and their origins as I do I'm always interested in other's opinions and thoughts. My apologies if I sounded otherwise
Keep posting. It's interesting to hear and see the pictures of your dogs and their characteristics.
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Thanks for all the info! I'm positive Nala is pure bred. No papers and she is my favorite breed (rescued, that is). Her physical appearance - 16" x 16", 22.4lbs., wrinked little forehead, tri color, & her distinct noises… no mistaking that! I thought I posted her picture... I'm actually her third person... She was in the pound here twice! The first family that adopted her gave her away & she ran away from those people as well. he was definitely a handful when I got her but she & I have an understanding now. LOL I wouldn't have her any other way! Understand, it doesn't matter to me if she's "pure" or not. I love her & she accepts me. I could go on for hours...
To "Quercus": Sorry, I must remember not to read "attitude" into a typed message. I guess I was facing a difficult day... So sorry, thanks for replying! -
Antialoops - like Andrea I was only passing on information - it was a good question. I hope I didn't sound corrective - I certainly didn't mean to!
It is an interesting debate and there is quite a lot written about the Basenji that isn't entirely accurate. Feeling about Basenjis and their origins as I do I'm always interested in other's opinions and thoughts. My apologies if I sounded otherwise
Keep posting. It's interesting to hear and see the pictures of your dogs and their characteristics.
I do have a small pic of her with her big brother Moose. Hope ou can see it clearly. There's no mistaking she's a Basenji. I've wanted a Basenji sinceI was about 12! I got her 2 yars ago, some 48 years later & she is everything & more than I hoped for!
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The picture was missing! Hope you manage to post it again, I'm very interested.
You've certainly held on to your childhood dream! I'm really happy for you.
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I keep getting an error message but I'll try again! Thanks for asking! I do love talking about them & showing them off! I'll try to start an album…
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Maybe this will work
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Hope you can see 'em
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She is beautiful! And the others too!
