New puppy

[gregtoni]

My lab was very head strong and challanging to train. When I get a pet he or she will be part of the family and we will spend just as much time training them as we do with the children! I plan on getting a crate for the times when we are not home, especially during the puppy phase. We used a shock collar with our Lab because it gave him more freadom to run than a leash but still gave us control to keep him safe. Has anyone out there used a shock collar with their Basenji for control in keeping them in their yard? We have three acres of land and from what I have read about Basenjis, fences don't keep them in.

[Quercus]

Please see the thread somewhere here about Basenjis and invisible fences. A six foot privacy fence is a hundred times more likely to keep a Basenji in than a shock fence. Not everybody has the option for that…but it is WAY safer.

[Vanessa]

Hi Toni,
One key thing to remember when owning a basenji, young or old, you must never let them out of your sight! Not even for a minute or else you will come back to a big suprise. Basenjis can NEVER be taken off lead because they will run. They are sighthounds which means sprinters who have an eye for anything moving, especially cars. More too often do you see them getting hit because they just run away.
With proper training and education you will have yourself a wonderful pet!
I spent about 2 years reasearching this breed. I too liked the idea that they were small, clean and did not bark. Boy was I in for a Huge awakening
Barkless…Naaahhhh! They scream! Scream at the top of their lungs!!!! To the point that my neighbors start asking questions.
Not even a good pair of earplugs will help
Crate training is essential for a basenji because you can't leave them alone in a home. They will destroy everything! Including your couch.
Here are some websites to check out:
http://www.basenji.org/
http://basenji.20m.com/
http://www.voyuz.net/basenji-faq.html
Check these websites out..there is a ton of information.
Good luck and check out the BCOA breeder directory..There may be someone in/near your area where you could go to spend some time with them.

[gregtoni]

I understand never leaving them alone beasuse our lab once ate our whole kitchen floor! Is it going to be possible to find a pup in May? I have heard that they only go into heat in the fall and pups are only available in the winter, is this true?
-Toni

[Quercus]

@gregtoni:

I understand never leaving them alone beasuse our lab once ate our whole kitchen floor! Is it going to be possible to find a pup in May? I have heard that they only go into heat in the fall and pups are only available in the winter, is this true?
-Toni

May would be very difficult. Yes, it is true most Basenjis come into heat Sep. thru Nov. so puppies are ready to go their new homes January thru March. Some Bs have a spring heat…we have one that often comes in in March...so those babies would be ready in July-ish. But it is usually REALLY hard to find puppies at unusual times. Often, though, breeders have puppies to place in the spring/summer that they either couldn't find homes for in the winter, or they were growing them out to see if they wanted to show them. And many breeders have grown dogs that have finished their show career, or their breeding career, have wonderful house manners, and are just looking for a home and family where they can be the pampered star of the family! And, of course you can adopt a dog from rescue at any time of the year.

People usually start getting on waiting lists toward the end of summer for puppies from responsible breeders. And by responsible, I don't mean you will have to pay extra for a "show kennel" name. In fact, most responsible breeders charge just about the same price, and it is far less expensive than pet stores or online puppy brokers. There is a long thread here about what is a responsible breeder.

I can't stress enough how important it is to not feel pressured that 'I have to have a puppy available in May, and this on-line seller has one' There are so many reasons that you want to form a relationship with a responsible breeder...I don't want to list them here, because this post is very long already Please find the various threads about what you want to look for in a breeder

[youngandtired]

I have underground fencing in my yard for my B, she will not go over the barrier. She did jump over it like a gazelle 2 times when I first got it to go after a cat, but she now does not try it. I have it set high enough that the shock prevents her from trying it now, she would have been hit by a car by now if I did not have it. She loves to chase cars when they pass my house, I live on a busy street. She loves to go after cats also, she will sit in the yard just shy of the barrier and watch the neighbors cat, and she will not follow me pass the line. It was quite expensive, about $800, but my baby would not be here if I didn't have it. She loves to run, run, run and she has this option b/c of the underground fence, it is not a favored way to keep her in the yard, but I had to do what I needed to do to keep her safe while at work. Good LucK!

[gregtoni]

I will probably get the hand held shock collar for our new dog. We used it for our Lab because he loved to chase the wildlife, it worked pretty well. Thanks for the info.

[nala121498]

I have an underground fence too, but I think the hand held is more risky…I wrote in another thread of others that tried it on another breed and they were very smart and knew if you didn't have the remote in your hand...Basenjis are crafty little buggers...lots of luck - whatever you decide.

[Quercus]

@gregtoni:

I will probably get the hand held shock collar for our new dog. We used it for our Lab because he loved to chase the wildlife, it worked pretty well. Thanks for the info.

There is another thread out there about this as well. Please, please, please…don't do this to your dog. Just put the dog on a leash. There are so many reasons not to use one of these devices. One is that very few people are good enough trainers to be able to use them the way they were intended. They are NOT intended to be a "hearing aid" for your dog because they don't normally listen to you.

I can tell you, there is not a responsible breeder out there that will sell you a puppy if you are planning to use a remote shock collar on your dog. Nor will rescue allow you to adopt a dog.

[gregtoni]

We never used our hand held as a "hearing aid" for our lab, and we went through a lot of traing on how to use the collar properly and had great success with it. I am not an idiot who would just start shocking my dog at random because he or she went out of site. When training our dog I am also outside working with the dog and I put a lot of time,effort and love into properly training my dog so he/she is safe. Thanks for the opinion though. -Toni

[dmcarty]

I actually have experience with this. I placed a dog with someone who - in spite of what I said about they can NEVER be off leash, they thought that way out in the country with an electronic collar would be fine.

They didn't notice that the batteries were weak, gravel truck down road, basenji dead.

Basenjis are not an off leash dog - they are hunters and if they see it or smell it they are gone. NO you cannot train that out of them. They have been hunters for thousands of years and will ALWAYS revert to that.

re: allergies. Here is something that I do when people say they have allergies.

Use a cotton swab (q-tip) to swab inside the dogs mouth and set on a paper towel.

Take a very fine tooth come and scrape on the skin of the dog in several different places and wipe off the skin dander and hair (even if you get a little) on the paper towel as well.

Fold it up and put it under the pillow of the person with the allergies. If they break out or have a runny nose - the dog most likely won't work for you.