Hi Tanza,
Yes, I’m sure. I am sure there are a lot of great folks there too. As with anything, it requires due diligence.
Best,
Adina
Basenji Puppies for Sale Ovid, MI
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I guess we don't consider ourselves breeders because when I think of a breeder I think of a business and waiting lists and such. I don't think of myself as a breeder because this is only the 2nd time our girl has had a litter and we are planning to get her spayed next year. The 1st time she got pregnant was kind of a accident, we knew we wanted to have puppies some day with her but we didn't want them then. We kept the two away from eachother but we were also in the middle of buying and moving into a house. We had a lot of fun with the puppies so we decided to have one more litter. I didn't mean of offend anyone because there is nothing wrong with being a breeder, I think I would like it if I were more serious about it. We only had puppies because we love our breed and want to share them that's all.
IMO anyone who chooses to breed their dogs is a breeder. Some are responsible breeders, some aren't. When you make the choice to bring life into the world you are obligated to do the very best you can for those babies. I hope you will make sure your puppy buyers are responsible too.
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IMO anyone who chooses to breed their dogs is a breeder. Some are responsible breeders, some aren't. When you make the choice to bring life into the world you are obligated to do the very best you can for those babies. I hope you will make sure your puppy buyers are responsible too.
Well said… and add to that ... any pups that you bring into the world you are responsible for their entire lives... good, bad, whatever..... regardless of why someone wants/needs to give up their Basenji, the breeder is responsible to take that pup... no questions asked... and that is usually in the contracts... and should be... (along with spay/neuter).
And to just comment on the "comment" about waiting lists.. that is how responsible breeders decide to breed, they have a list of homes before the breeding is done... not after... and if for some reason the planned litter doesn't work out.. responsible breeders will offer assistance to find another responsible breeder that would have a pup to place... or give the people the option to stay on the top of their reservation list for the next breeding.
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Thanks for the answers
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We are not breeders, we had one litter 2 years ago and we decided to have 1 more before getting our female spayed.
If you breed a litter, and this isn't the only one you've bred,
then you are, by definition, breeders.Test your dogs, spare your puppy buyers the horror of possibly living with a Fanconi Affected basenji.
Been There. Done That.
AM NEVER DOING THAT AGAIN.
Thank god and allah that there is a test that allows us to breed away from this dreaded disease. -
re: Pat's comment about 'forever' I have a guy here that is over 14 whose family just decided that their daughters friends coming in throught the gate to the back door - left the gate open and Wilie would go off on adventures. So rather than have the friends use the FRONT door - Wilie came back to me at age 9 . Was it convenient - nope - did I even give it a moments thought - nope - my breeding my responsibility.
Tried to place him a couple of times but - he was 'too old' and no one wanted him. It's hard for him to be one of several rather than have his own heat vent, couch and family but…....
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I don´t know how it is in the US but here in sweden you can have two litters after that you have to apply for a kennel name.I agree with the rest please test your dog´s for fanconi it´s the only way we can eradicate this hideous disease that has brought so much suffering to dog´s and distress to their owners.
You mentioned that pup´s are ready for delivery between 6-8 weeks please do not sell the pup´s before they are atleast 8 weeks it´s so important for their well being these last two weeks.Good Luck with your puppies,Michelle Stockholm Sweden
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No requirement in US for application for kennel name… The only requirement would be with AKC and DNA testing for parentage for frequent breeders
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We apply and then it takes awhile to get it accepted. In Finland they are even stricter there you have to pass a breeders exam it takes over a year to go the course then the exam and then your´re vetted to see if you pass and there are tough questions about genetics etc….And then you get your kennel name if it doesn´t already exist. As every name goes through the FCI(federation cynologicue International)database to see that no one else has that name like a kennel in brazil.And your kennel application is published in the national dogmagazine for 30 days where people can send a protest if they find your name too close to theirs or something else.
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heheh. that sounds so finnish
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We apply and then it takes awhile to get it accepted. In Finland they are even stricter there you have to pass a breeders exam it takes over a year to go the course then the exam and then your´re vetted to see if you pass and there are tough questions about genetics etc….And then you get your kennel name if it doesn´t already exist. As every name goes through the FCI(federation cynologicue International)database to see that no one else has that name like a kennel in brazil.And your kennel application is published in the national dogmagazine for 30 days where people can send a protest if they find your name too close to theirs or something else.
I wish the US would do what the Finnish do…. maybe then we would not have as many BYB out there selling
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Have the puppies been born yet? What sex and colors did she have?
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She had the puppies on Dec 12. 4 males and 2 Female. The females are red/white. 2 of the males are red/white and 2 males are black/white. I didn't think it was possible to have black/white unless one parent is black/white. At least that's what I have read anyway I could be wrong. The mother is brindle/white and the male is red/white.
All of the puppies have a full white collar and white on their face from their noses to between their eyes. And of course they have the white feet/belly and tips of tails. They went yesterday to get their dew claws taken out.
The mother did wonderful and she's doing good.
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She had the puppies on Dec 12. 4 males and 2 Female. The females are red/white. 2 of the males are red/white and 2 males are black/white. I didn't think it was possible to have black/white unless one parent is black/white. At least that's what I have read anyway I could be wrong. The mother is brindle/white and the male is red/white.
All of the puppies have a full white collar and white on their face from their noses to between their eyes. And of course they have the white feet/belly and tips of tails. They went yesterday to get their dew claws taken out.
The mother did wonderful and she's doing good.
The 'blacks' are most likely tri or trindle, and their tan parts will show up later. You do have to have a black parent to get a black puppy.
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How much later may I ask?
We had 1 tri 2 years ago and we could tell right way, her cheeks and eyes were already red. We also had 2 extemely dark brindles last time as well but we could still see the color difference. I thought it was pretty crazy. Every thing I read points to not possible.
I'll keep you updated if any color changes.
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How much later may I ask?
We had 1 tri 2 years ago and we could tell right way, her cheeks and eyes were already red. We also had 2 extemely dark brindles last time as well but we could still see the color difference. I thought it was pretty crazy. Every thing I read points to not possible.
I'll keep you updated if any color changes.
Usually within 5 to 7 days you will start to see the eye "pips" on a tri… and/or Trindle
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I see you did the dew claws, did you send for the fanconis test?
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How much later may I ask?
We had 1 tri 2 years ago and we could tell right way, her cheeks and eyes were already red. We also had 2 extemely dark brindles last time as well but we could still see the color difference. I thought it was pretty crazy. Every thing I read points to not possible.
I'll keep you updated if any color changes.
My tri pup was obvious right away. But I have heard of others that didn't show for several days. Also if they are trindle, you could have stripes in the red so it would look much darker.
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Thanks a lot.
No I have not done the test yet but I did contact the owner of the mother of my litter. She has both parents of my female–she said that they have been tested and neither have it.
I've read you can test their if their is sugar in their urine and if there is not then they don't have it. And the urine should be tested monthly and if it shows up then to get them tested. Is that true? Either way they will be tested way now that I have read more about it and am more informed.
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Thanks a lot.
No I have not done the test yet but I did contact the owner of the mother of my litter. She has both parents of my female–she said that they have been tested and neither have it.
I've read you can test their if their is sugar in their urine and if there is not then they don't have it. And the urine should be tested monthly and if it shows up then to get them tested. Is that true? Either way they will be tested way now that I have read more about it and am more informed.
It is true that if you "strip" test the urine monthly you can tell if they have Fanconi on that day, however that is not the same as the DNA test that will tell you if they will get Fanconi… Since we now have a DNA test all breeding considered should have Fanconi tested DNA before the breeding takes place. That way you know if there could be Fanconi produced in that litter and NOT do the breeding... because now there is no reason to ever produce a possible Fanconi affected Basenji.
I would guess that the people that have the parents of your bitch have only done the month strip test, but not the DNA test.
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Thanks a lot.
No I have not done the test yet but I did contact the owner of the mother of my litter. She has both parents of my female–she said that they have been tested and neither have it.
I've read you can test their if their is sugar in their urine and if there is not then they don't have it. And the urine should be tested monthly and if it shows up then to get them tested. Is that true? Either way they will be tested way now that I have read more about it and am more informed.
This is not true. Urine testing only tells you the dog's status on that day and tells you nothing about whether it will produce the disorder since carriers will be unaffected but can produce the disease. You must do the DNA Marker Test to know if your dog carries the gene to produce the disorder. Also, since the disease is late onset, the dog or its parents may not yet be symptomatic but could still be affected.
If your dogs' parents are not in the OFA database as tested, http://www.offa.org, then they have not been tested and you need to order test kits for your dogs. https://secure.offa.org/cart.html
One parent must test Probably Clear to ensure that none of your puppies will ever be Affected. If neither parent is clear you will need to test all the puppies before placing them.
