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  • tanzaT

    @JazzysMom:

    Keoki is 9 mos old and has never exhibited any "mounting" behaviors, not toward the other dogs, people, pillows, nothing.

    Bryan is going to be taking him soon to have a semen collection done for possible future breeding. Once Keoki learns what his "special purpose" in life
    is :rolleyes: , do you think I should expect to see those behaviors begin?

    I've only ever owned one other male dog, and he was neutered very young by the shelter.

    I doubt it…....

    Pat Fragassi

    Tanza Basenjis

    www.tanzabasenjis.net

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  • dmcartyD

    I do have an odd question though - what would be the reason for possibly collecting a dog that young? Can't tell a lot at 9 months on how he holds up, matures etc. I suppose if you were shipping him overseas that would make sense in the event he turns out to be fabulous but help me out here - I just don't get it.

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  • tanzaT

    @dmcarty:

    I do have an odd question though - what would be the reason for possibly collecting a dog that young? Can't tell a lot at 9 months on how he holds up, matures etc. I suppose if you were shipping him overseas that would make sense in the event he turns out to be fabulous but help me out here - I just don't get it.

    Not that I want to talk for Jazzy's Mom, but I think she wants to have him neutered…. many people that get B's are not interested in keeping them in-tact... by collecting them, you have the best of both worlds... having him collected so if the breeder wants to use it it is there, the owner can neuter.... I think it is a great option...

    Pat Fragassi

    Tanza Basenjis

    www.tanzabasenjis.net

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  • dmcartyD

    Makes sense I just couldn't figure why - if he's neutered young - he may not mature the way he would have had he not been neutered in which case why use him if you don't know what he would have been like on the other - he may look smashing after he's matured neutered but again - what would he have been un-neutered.

    I guess from time to time some of us oldies (before tech and test) (and perhaps I'm the only one) just look at things a little differently.

    IMO we are loosing a lot in this breed for a variety of reasons - it's nice that this health test appears to be helpful - now if we could do something about fronts - wouldn't that be nice! :)

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  • tanzaT

    @dmcarty:

    Makes sense I just couldn't figure why - if he's neutered young - he may not mature the way he would have had he not been neutered in which case why use him if you don't know what he would have been like on the other - he may look smashing after he's matured neutered but again - what would he have been un-neutered.

    I guess from time to time some of us oldies (before tech and test) (and perhaps I'm the only one) just look at things a little differently.

    IMO we are loosing a lot in this breed for a variety of reasons - it's nice that this health test appears to be helpful - now if we could do something about fronts - wouldn't that be nice! :)

    I think that (if you are talking about the DNA Fanconi test) is more that "appears" to be helpful… at least IMO.... of course it will be great if we get the direct test sooner than later.. along with PRA test... and even better if OFA data base was totally open for HD results, not optional.

    And yes, it would be nice to help the fronts... and other body parts!.. in some cases....

    Pat Fragassi

    Tanza Basenjis

    www.tanzabasenjis.net

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  • JazzysMomJ

    @tanza:

    Not that I want to talk for Jazzy's Mom, but I think she wants to have him neutered…. many people that get B's are not interested in keeping them in-tact... by collecting them, you have the best of both worlds... having him collected so if the breeder wants to use it it is there, the owner can neuter.... I think it is a great option...

    That's it! We never planned to breed Keoki, in fact Bryan didn't originally plan to breed him. But things and situations change…. so he asked before he's neutered for the opportunity to collect for the future.
    At the time he asked, we were going to let Bryan continue to show Keoki, so he would have collected later. However -- things and situations change..... and we've decided to neuter him sooner, so Bryan will collect sooner. ;)

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  • JazzysMomJ

    @tanza:

    I doubt it…....

    Oh,and thanks Tanza, for answering my question. :)

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  • tanzaT

    @JazzysMom:

    Oh,and thanks Tanza, for answering my question. :)

    Hey not a problem :D

    Pat Fragassi

    Tanza Basenjis

    www.tanzabasenjis.net

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  • VanessaV

    @JazzysMom:

    Keoki is 9 mos old and has never exhibited any "mounting" behaviors, not toward the other dogs, people, pillows, nothing.

    I was wondering the same thing too. Chance will be a year old at the end of the month and has never humped or shown any interest in the opposet sex. Is this normal? (I know I should be thanking my lucky stars that he doesn't do this) :p

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  • JazzysMomJ

    @Vanessa626:

    I was wondering the same thing too. Chance will be a year old at the end of the month and has never humped or shown any interest in the opposet sex. Is this normal? (I know I should be thanking my lucky stars that he doesn't do this) :p

    LOL, me too! ;)

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  • QuercusQ

    I think that for many (maybe most) basenjis they are not very sexual beings until breeding season. We tried to collect Querk once out of season, and he was like, using an in heat St. Bernard 'uh, no…she stinks, and keeps whapping me in the face with her tail!' we tried the next season with an in season B bitch, and he gave a huge, healthy sample ;)

    So, he was never a humpy, testosertone dog until maybe the second breeding season. And then only when a neighbor dog was in heat or something. After we had females that started coming into heat, he did become difficult to live with during the season. He tied once with Blondie long after she was out of heat, because she just stood there @@ ! So he has bred naturally..and he has been collected several times. And once he was neutered just about every bit of humping went away. In fact, this season when Blondie was in full bloom..she started humping him!!! We were talking about paybacks being a you know what ;)

    So my answer to your question is, no, I don't think collecting him will make a bit of difference in his behavior :)

    Andrea Walters

    Quercus Basenjis

    NW Ohio

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  • QuercusQ

    @dmcarty:

    I do have an odd question though - what would be the reason for possibly collecting a dog that young? Can't tell a lot at 9 months on how he holds up, matures etc. I suppose if you were shipping him overseas that would make sense in the event he turns out to be fabulous but help me out here - I just don't get it.

    Aside from the answer that Pat gave, you might also need that dog genetically in your breeding program for reasons other than show quality. Maybe he has a particulary great combination of health attributes. Or maybe he is the only male in the litter, and you want to preserve that tail male line?

    IMO, it isn't all about how the dog turns out…but what the genetic package is?

    Andrea Walters

    Quercus Basenjis

    NW Ohio

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  • QuercusQ

    Oh, and BTW…not a stupid question at all...I think everybody who has an intact male has contemplated that question :)

    Andrea Walters

    Quercus Basenjis

    NW Ohio

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