Help me find my B's Breeder!

We "rescued" our B from a home in northern Illinois where the other, older, bigger dog used Rocky for a chew toy (think T-rex vs. goat sceene in "Jurassic Park"). We were told that Rocky was from a breeder in Wisconsin who specialized in black & white Basenji's and utilized Panda and/or Polor Bear in their names.

We were told he's AKC registered but never were able to get his papers as his previous owner would not return our phone calls after we brought Rocky home.

Anyone heard of a breeder in WI specializing in Black & Whites with Polar or Panda Bear in their dogs names?

Help!

rockyswoman, i did a search on the zande site and did not find anything that seemed helpful. polar returned no results and panda had several, but none that matched your boys age and coloring. maybe someone else will have an idea of how to help you. i did not notice any one breeder having more than one dog with panda in the name. do you have any other info about where your boy came from? sorry, wish i could help. this is the site i am talking about http://www.pedigrees.zandebasenjis.com/
it is very good, and free 🙂

i sent you a pm

I searched AKC and found a few dogs with Panda Bear at the start of their name. One was a black and white male born 12/8/1997 named Panda Bear Petite Jr, he has a red and white male brother named Petie Bear Besch. The AKC website does not give information on the who the breeder is but these dogs may be related to your Rocky. A Yahoo search on the registered names didn't turn up anything.

Your boy wouldn't happen to have a tattoo, would he? With his litter registration number?

Not that I can see… nothing on his skin nor his upper lips. What other area would I be looking for this at?

It is usually in the inner thigh area, occasionally in the ear. Not a lot of dogs have them, since people started going to microchips instead.

nope, no tatoos. He's getting microchiped this summer though. I just keep thinking of those families who lost their pets during the huricanes, kept looking for them for over a year, finally find them in their new adoptive homes, and have to go to court to attempt to get them back. I want positive proof that my boys are actually mine.

@Quercus:

It is usually in the inner thigh area, occasionally in the ear. Not a lot of dogs have them, since people started going to microchips instead.

We use tatoos on the show dogs.

The breeder we got our B from doesn't use microchips on their show or pet quality pups because they either tend to wander from the original injection sight or become lost completely due to the almost non-existent fat layer. They tattoo because a tattoo is forever 😃 and is hard/expensive to alter inconspicuously or obliterate.

To each their own, of course.

Some of the early microchips did wander but the newer ones don't seem to be a problem. I have all of mine chipped. Nicky has been chipped for 8 years and it has never moved and anyone who knows Nicky can tell you as a youngster he never had any extra fat. Nicky has also been tatooed for about 8 years. Yes, it is a nice visible marker but I have always wondered how many people would have any clue about who to contact to locate me when they see it. Also after eight years, the once very clear easy to read tatoo has become less clear and easy to read with time. It is the nature of tatoos. My brother has some and they do need to be retouched if you want them to stay crisp and clear.

That's a good point, Ivoss. I guess there's really no foolproof way to permanently identify your dog as yours.

Tattoos can fade and some people wouldn't know what to do with the info if they saw it. Microchips can become lost or some people wouldn't think to have a stray dog scanned for one either because they've never heard of chipping or just didn't think of it.

One way or the other, I think it's, for the most part, worth the effort/expense.

There has been a lot of publicity about microchips. Especially after Hurricane Katrina left so many animals without a way to be reunited with their owners. I think that most people who find a stray contact either their local shelter or vet office about what to do. Both of these places should know about microchips and probably have scanners. The scanners will identify the manufacturer which keeps records on all the chips they have sold. My vet has the records for all of my dogs and puppies since they were the purchaser of the chips. The big problem with tatoos is that there is no manufacturer to contact. The person has to actually be familiar with tatoo registries.

@lvoss:

I searched AKC and found a few dogs with Panda Bear at the start of their name. One was a black and white male born 12/8/1997 named Panda Bear Petite Jr, he has a red and white male brother named Petie Bear Besch. The AKC website does not give information on the who the breeder is but these dogs may be related to your Rocky. A Yahoo search on the registered names didn't turn up anything.

Sally (owner of the pedigree website) collects breeder information on all the dogs she puts on the site. She has a lot more info than what she puts up.

If you want to know the info on a particular dog she might give it to you if she has it.

I would strongly suggest a chip for your basenji.
The new ones are very good and it will get the dog back
to you if its ever lost.
I have often found that I can contact the breeder of a basenji that shows up
in rescue, because the new owners often don't change the chip info.
Just my 2cents.

Re: microchips. I just wanted to share a story about a microchip helping a dog. A few months ago I spotted an anxious looking DIRTY golden retriever running past my place. There were a few cars chasing him but the owner was no where to be found. I ran after it also with some food and a leash and caught up to it a little ways away and met a cop there. He said he had to take it to the humane society. I couldnt let that happen, so I told him I would take him home and contact the humane society with his info so the owners could contact me to get him. I just couldnt stand the thought of a dog having to be at the humane society even if just for 1 day. The cop said he was supposed to take the dog to the vet to be scanned for a chip. There happens to be one within walking distance of my house so we walked him there and turns out he did have a chip. The chip had the vets contact info on it, and since it was a sunday, the vet was closed. So i said I'd keep the dog until monday and call the vet to get the owner.

Anyway, long story short, the cop told me when they find dogs, they always take them to the vet to get it scanned for a chip.

I immediately contacted the chip company to make sure Lenny's chip had my contact info on it.

About an hour after I left the vet, the owners of the dog called me. They had contacted the humane society and got my information. They were very thankful that I kept him. It was actually a really sad story… the dog belonged to the guys dad, who had just died. The guy was adopting his dads dog and was heartbroken when he saw that he had gotten away from the yard. He said he was out in the morning and got scared by a big clap of thunder and ran off. My house was on the way from his new home to his former owners home... I always wondered if the dog was trying to get back to his old house. 😞 sad.

My chip story is that we had a basenji show quality but very skinny turned into a shelter in the PNW.
This dog had a chip and the shelter info was not completely filled out re the owners, who dropped the basenji off at the shelter, if they had contacted the breeder.
Once I was contacted and checked out the chip info I KNEW this breeder would do the right thing for their dog and get it.
Course they did..but if I had not had the info, I woudn't have been able to get this basenji back where it should have been sent in the first place.
This is the way its suspose to work re rescue, basenjis and chips.
At least, IMO.
I am so glad you were able to help the golden who needed to get back home.
Poor little dog, didn't know where home was.
Sigh

I've made it a point to microchip all the critters in my household (both dogs, the cat and the horse is next). Not sure of the particular brand of chip used, but I do know that the chip and the critter are registered with the AKC CAR program. It's piece of mind for me, especially since our local county shelter is a kill shelter. But all the shelters/vets/societies in the area scan for the chips so I'm confident that should anything happen, my boys would all make it home safe and sound.

For me it's simply peace of mind. And well worth the minimal costs.

I placed a dog that came out of an all breed rescue that was chipped. When the new owners took him in - the vet found no chip. At the time is seems that the chips at Petsmart/Petco etc were not able to be read by the readers that most folks had. Something about the chips were 'foreign made and not compatible' The other issue with chips - although I'm sure it's improved some - is not all readers read all chips especially in more rural areas.

I tatto - AKC and the number - everyone knows what AKC is -

@dmcarty:

I placed a dog that came out of an all breed rescue that was chipped. When the new owners took him in - the vet found no chip. At the time is seems that the chips at Petsmart/Petco etc were not able to be read by the readers that most folks had. Something about the chips were 'foreign made and not compatible' The other issue with chips - although I'm sure it's improved some - is not all readers read all chips especially in more rural areas.

I tatto - AKC and the number - everyone knows what AKC is -

Well not really, I know lots of Vets even that don't know what AKC is… I used to tatto all of mine, but since the person that used to do it retired.. it is pretty hard to find a "good" one. I have seen some that are horrible...

@tanza:

Well not really, I know lots of Vets even that don't know what AKC is…

Really!?!?! :eek: Gosh…

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