@matt_dl That is good to hear ! I think there are puppies in the North of UK. The demand last year meant some people bred imported dogs to get on the band wagon, maybe. Anyway there are many first time breeders with possible un-health tested breeding pairs. Do make sure the parents are health test by OFA for Fanconi and PRA at the very least. And that they are registered with our Kennel Club.
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My guess is that she isn't aware that she IS using another breeder's name.
Maybe not but I hope she reads this and refrains from using it from this point on.
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Yes, she recently sent me a friend request which I accepted. I suspected BYB also, I asked her a question about how long she had been breeding Basenjis. I was trying to get a response and dig a little deeper, but she never responded to my question… which made me even more suspicious. I left her as my friend for future reference, interesting she popped up here!
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BTW, the only Basenji breeder I knew of in WV (until now) is in Proctor, WV… Bethany of Rosewood Kennels. Oh, and a girl named Melisa in Proctor... I'm not sure if she and Rosewood are in some way connected, but Melisa claims to breed and show Basenjis...
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Dolores has been around awhile.
Karen Hutchinson has co-bred with her.
Dolores got a puppy from Lisa A [Itzyu] last year.
He is a littermate to my Bebe [also from Lisa].Unfortunately, this girl probably got her dogs from the PM in Keota, OK and most likely they aren't even AKC registered…
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BTW, the only Basenji breeder I knew of in WV (until now) is in Proctor, WV… Bethany of Rosewood Kennels. Oh, and a girl named Melisa in Proctor... I'm not sure if she and Rosewood are in some way connected, but Melisa claims to breed and show Basenjis...
My guess is you're thinking of Melisa Skillman? (Her last name might be different now.) If so, then yes she is also a breeder/exhibitor, Dija Basenjis. Her dogs have a similar pedigree as Beth's dogs and they do work together sometimes. I don't know all the details but I do know they associate with each other, more now than in the past. Melisa used to live in Ohio and I've seen her around quite a bit. Been a while though since we've talked.
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My guess is you're thinking of Melisa Skillman? (Her last name might be different now.) If so, then yes she is also a breeder/exhibitor, Dija Basenjis. Her dogs have a similar pedigree as Beth's dogs and they do work together sometimes. I don't know all the details but I do know they associate with each other, more now than in the past. Melisa used to live in Ohio and I've seen her around quite a bit. Been a while though since we've talked.
I think that's the Melisa I am speaking of, I'm glad you metioned the name of her Co. (Dija Basenjis). It sounds very familiar, I had just never put the two together in my head… There aren't many Basenji Breeders in my state!
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Melisa is totally legit, and a really nice woman
I think she currently lives with (and works for?) Beth on her farm. They both breed Basenjis under different kennel names. -
Well, keep us posted if you all learn more about the person who posted this.
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I agree.
Thanks Andrea, I know she had lived with Beth for a while, but not sure if she still was, or just nearby. -
Well, keep us posted if you all learn more about the person who posted this.
I'll see if I can get anything out of her. She claims to work at an "interactive exotic zoo"… If so one would only hope she's wise enough to test the parents for fanconi, etc., but you never know about people… And you would think if she read any of this and is legit she would respond! However, we have gotten NO response which leads me even more to think she is not legit.:(
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Certainly obvious that she didn't have a waiting list for puppies before breeding….
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I had a response on Myspace – she doesn't have "kennel" per se, she has one female and this is her first litter. She said the dam's Fanconi test is pending. She also said she was unaware that there was already a Mystical Basenjis and thought she was being original as her bitches name is "Hilas Mystical Light". She said she will probably try to come up with a new name.
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I got a response, too (I'd say BYB):
…The female's akc name is hilas mystical light, the sire is WLS todd...
(I was afraid of that, the WL line is heavily linked with fanconi!):(
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I got a response, too (I'd say BYB):
…The female's akc name is hilas mystical light, the sire is WLS todd...
(I was afraid of that, the WL line is heavily linked with fanconi!):(
Did you tell her that his line is linked?
How sad that he was bred at this time, with all the info. available.
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Even sadder that she did the breeding prior to doing any health testing. She now has puppies on the ground almost ready to go to new homes and still doesn't know the results of the parents let alone have the puppies tested. No buyer should accept a puppy from untested parents without seeing the puppy's own test results. That will take an additional 4-6 weeks so pups will be 12-14 weeks old.
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Even sadder that she did the breeding prior to doing any health testing. She now has puppies on the ground almost ready to go to new homes and still doesn't know the results of the parents let alone have the puppies tested. No buyer should accept a puppy from untested parents without seeing the puppy's own test results. That will take an additional 4-6 weeks so pups will be 12-14 weeks old.
Yes, but sadly who in the general population has a clue? Sometimes the only information they have is what they are told by the breeder, and if you have a bad breeder….... the cycle continues.
Like this young lady. She apparently bought a cute dog, was given limited information, I would guess didn't have a spay clause in the contract, if there even was a contract, and thought it'd be fun to have puppies.
Most people don't think to research a breed before buying. I mean,
honestly, I wouldn't have researched Basenjis a whole lot if I hadn't simply stumbled on information while looking for a local breeder. If I stumbled on a site that had great information that clued me on as to what to ask about and look for in a breeder. I was just looking for someone to buy a dog from, which is what most people are doing. -
I am sorry but the information is posted all over the place. It is on the websites of responsible breeders, it is on the BCOA website, it is on affiliate club sites. If the general public is going to buy a dog they should do their research. The majority of inquiries that I get the people know to ask so actually there are LOTS of people doing at least some amount of research even if it is only visiting a couple of websites.
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One of the things that I find amazing is how many people actually want to breed their dog. Having really gotten to know some breeders, the responsibility of it all just seems overwhelming to me. Even done half-a$$ed (without research, planning, testing, visits from prospective buyers, waiting lists etc.), it is still a ton of work, care, and responsibility. I just can't imagine not feeling responsibility to do it right.
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A Google search for "basenji puppies" or "basenji puppy" lists the BCOA website as the third and fourth in the search. A search for "basenji breeders" lists the BCOA as first and second. In just a few clicks, anyone looking for a Basenji could have all the information they need to find a healthy puppy. The problem isn't the lack of information available or the degree of difficulty finding the info but rather the desire for a person to have a puppy NOW. They bypass or ignore the BCOA and head right to puppyfind, nextdaypets, or kajiji. Kathy of Khani's Basenjis advertises on puppyfind and quite frankly I wish more responsible breeders used these types of sites to advertise. When a potential buyer reads one of Kathy's ads where it is obvious that she is an intelligent, responsible breeder then the buyer reads one of "Ms Backyard Breeder" ads that shows their ignorance or lack of concern about breeding, it makes some people think. Competitive advertising like this (regardless of whether you have puppies or not) shows the difference between ethical and unethical breeders and can lead the potential buyer to a person who can further educate them.
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I agree with Robyn. When my husband, who wanted a Basenji NOW, started looking he just happened upon an ad in the paper and went and talked to the breeder. He didn't know anything about basenjis other than the fact that I wanted one. I called her breeder and started asking about testing and found out that none had been done, she was a byb. I loved that little dog till the end of her short life. When I started looking for another basenji after she passed away I was armed to the teeth with info but it was difficult to find a breeder with puppies and also difficult for me to wait it out. I found my girl's breeder on one of the sites mentioned. She is from a legit breeder who did not have puppies available at that moment but was able to give me a ball park time and info about the parents and their testing so I did more research and googled the kennel name, went to Infodog to find out how the dam and sire placed, went to the Zande database and then finally to the OFFA database and did searches on the kennel name in all those places. I think most people wouldn't go through all that. I found out about all the above mentioned sites from this forum. Something else I SHOULD have done is go to more shows and observe the dogs in the ring and talk to the owners/handlers AFTER the show. I didn't know how focused one needs to be before going into the ring (I do now) and felt put off by some of the basenji folks. I also recommend that breeders advertise on these sites and be friendlier and more forthcoming to folks without dogs that are standing ringside-they could be a person who is interested in showing and looking for a show puppy like I was. I really would have appreciated it if some of the folks I had tried to talk to had just explained their need to focus and asked me to wait until after they were done in the ring…..
