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  • Oh so exciting…what beautifull dogs the sire and dam are.
    Keep us updated...are you hoping for any specific colours other then the red or blacks....or will that be the most likley with this pair......I only ask because you are the master of inheritable genetics on this board. ;) with this litter, one thing seems certain...another great generation of lure coursers. :D

  • We believe that both of Nicky's parent were homozygous for Red, so he should be also. TC is heterozygous for black and we don't know if TC carries tri or not, though I don't think she does. Even if she did, since Nicky does not the only colors we can get are Reds and Black.

  • @lvoss:

    We believe that both of Nicky's parent were homozygous for Red, so he should be also. TC is heterozygous for black and we don't know if TC carries tri or not, though I don't think she does. Even if she did, since Nicky does not the only colors we can get are Reds and Black.

    Two beautifull colours :) Good luck with the breeding…keep us updated.

  • TC's Fanconi test result is in and she is Probably Clear/Normal. Nicky is also Probably Clear/Normal. TC's owner has also given me a heads up that the girls may come into season early this year. She is hoping that they will hold off since she is planning to go to Nationals and them being in season early could complicate things.

    So now I am getting really excited!

  • I also just realized how much work I still have to do to get ready for puppies. So I guess I am really getting excited and a little bit of that "how am I going to get everything done" feeling.

  • Ah the trials and tribulations of being a good breeder. Good luck with all the planning and the setup for this year…...it certainly takes a good amount of your time to bring the next generation into this world. I am getting excited too.....for the winter when you can tell us all about the cute little bundles of trouble. :D

  • Man Ivoss - I wish I was back home for this new litter. I so adore those little BW puppies.

  • TC is really looking pregnant now. She is due on October 31st. She is enjoying life in Southern California with my mom and her boys. She is fitting right in with my mom's all black and white household.:D

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  • They are all so beautiful. My first show dog in 1978 was a black and white from a breeder in Los Gatos, CA. She was amazing.

  • Are you going to bring her to your house to whelp, or will she stay at your mom's?

  • We sent TC to my mom's house to whelp because it is much more relaxing for her to be in a house with two boys than in my house with 3 girls who definitely feel she is not pack. My mom is co-breeding the litter. I have already taken time off work so I can fly down and help with the whelping and have planned on several weekends down there including the holidays.

  • @lvoss:

    We sent TC to my mom's house to whelp because it is much more relaxing for her to be in a house with two boys than in my house with 3 girls who definitely feel she is not pack. My mom is co-breeding the litter. I have already taken time off work so I can fly down and help with the whelping and have planned on several weekends down there including the holidays.

    Sounds like a great plan :)

  • Yeah, TC is really enjoying it. Today was a chilly day in So Cal so my mom got out the jackets to make sure no one was cold on their walk. I think TC's jacket accentuates her belly.

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  • What a great jacket… where did those jackets come from, I really like the style.. very simple.

  • She is lovely, hope all goes well and we have puppy pics soon.

  • OMG! I think Magnum is pregnant! He looks very similar to TC's latest picture!

    Hold up…I think he's just chubby!

    Magnum says: I'm not fat, I'm phat...and a little bit phluffy!

    Hope all goes well, Ivoss! Sending best wishes your way!

  • @LiveWWSD:

    What a great jacket… where did those jackets come from, I really like the style.. very simple.

    My mom got the jacket from Luxor Basenjis last year. http://www.luxorbasenjis.com/index.html

  • Oh my, TC is getting huge! Poor girl is really a petite little thing, and now she looks like a beached Orca whale.

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  • When is she due?

  • She is due October 31st.

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