I cannot imagine committing to buy a puppy without seeing the animal and if possible the sire and dam. OTOH, a rescue (or adoption of an older dog) is a different thing. My last two Basenjis came to me sight unseen, and turned out to be wonderful dogs, but the breeders I got them from wanted to place their dogs in an experienced Basenji home, and I only paid the cost of getting the dogs to me. One came by air, one was personally transported to me by his breeder. If she hadn't been happy with what she found I expect she would have taken him back with her when she left. I also had to commit to return him if ever I couldn't keep him. Good breeders care about where their dogs end up.
Decker Rat Terriers
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The Rat Terrier breed has had a pretty large dose of basenji mixed in, especially in the Decket Giants. I went to a UKC show where Rat Terriers are frequently seen and shown in large numbers. The rat terrier people were thrilled to see basenjis at the show and fully acknowledge the contribution of basenjis to their breed. We did not see any of the Decker Giants but several of the dogs we saw had a strong resemblance to basenjis especially one red and white female that was competing. The owner was really hoping that my girls would yodel because she was interested in hearing what a basenji yodel sounded like. He girl is quite a talker and she was wondering how her noises compared to basenjis since she was pretty sure it was the basenji that contributed to her "wierd" noises.
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They look like Basenji-Jack Russell mixes to me. Or maybe (depending on their markings) Basenjis with docked tails.
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Wow - they look like Duke! So maybe I'm getting closer - maybe he is a Decker Rat Terrier. I know he is a mix possibly Basenji-Jack. I saw Rat Terriers at a dog show last year - they were way smaller with large ears unproportioned for their size. I didn't know there were different breeds of Rat Terriers.
Do you think?
Thanks for posting this Sharron.
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I don't know, Duke looks all Basenji to me. It looks like some idiot ripped the tail off your Basenji! In truth though, he's gorgeous, I wouldn't change a thing. Sometimes (when I see one this pretty) I think I like the Black and Whites better than the Reds….nah, but almost.
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I was just looking for some information about the Tesem dogs and found this:
http://www.rsce.es/razas/razas_ratonero_valenciano_1.htmIt's the Rater Valenciá from Spain.. Looks a lot like the Rat Terrier and the Basenji!
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I agree..Duke looks like a basenji with a docked tail and he is just beautiful. I especially like the last picture. He has a regal air about him.
Pat
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There was someone in my neighborhood in Pittsburgh who had a rat terrier…..they look a lot like Bs....I don't think he was a decker rat terrier, though.
Jack didn't like him at all- he barked too much
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Duke is lovely…thanks for the photos.
This Decker terriers photos looked so much like a basenji to me, when the shelter sent them, we got right on the dog..
BUT now we are working to rehome him.
I had no idea of this breed before I met Shawn. The deckers boys new name. -
I think your boy could be a decker!
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Aww - Thank you for the compliments of my little boy, Duke. He is gorgeous and yet still on the wild side despite all the obedience training we have completed. I know he's not full Basenji - he's been seen and looked at by a few very reputable breeders. My poor/lucky boy was a throw away pup when he was found with tail cut-off. I sometimes think I should have his tail completely removed as I observe his discomfort with it. (sad to say) He has too long of neck fur and snout, too short of neck and legs. Though he is standard weight (25 lbs) for male basenji. His quirks are Basenji, but his jumping and barking abilities lie with Jack Russell Terrier. I've learned an incredible amount of information since I've acquired this puppy - thanks to this forum. I must visit a Decker Rat Terrier to determine if he is one. Always somthing on the "to-do" list…
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Why does his tail hurt him? Someone "home made" tail docking??
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I was just looking for some information about the Tesem dogs and found this:
http://www.rsce.es/razas/razas_ratonero_valenciano_1.htmIt's the Rater Valenciá from Spain.. Looks a lot like the Rat Terrier and the Basenji!
Looks a lot like her Duke to me! Maybe?
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Why does his tail hurt him? Someone "home made" tail docking??
I would guess so. He was found this way - 10-12 weeks old:
Vet inspected tail - and noted raw healing on docked tail vs. stitched. We don't know where he came from as he was found in a zipped bag in a parking lot with a brother also with docked tail. I've told his story into my life a few times here, I can't help believing that stories like Dukes lead to happy lives for the the many out there needing rescue. That there is also a blessed heart felt feeling of love for saving.
I don't know about docking the rest of his tail yet - he's 2-1/2 now - but I see him protecting his rear end and often looping back to itch it. I would like to discuss it with his vet and another for a second opinion … on the list....
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I would guess so. He was found this way - 10-12 weeks old:
Vet inspected tail - and noted raw healing on docked tail vs. stitched. We don't know where he came from as he was found in a zipped bag in a parking lot with a brother also with docked tail. I've told his story into my life a few times here, I can't help believing that stories like Dukes lead to happy lives for the the many out there needing rescue. That there is also a blessed heart felt feeling of love for saving.
I don't know about docking the rest of his tail yet - he's 2-1/2 now - but I see him protecting his rear end and often looping back to itch it. I would like to discuss it with his vet and another for a second opinion … on the list....
Docked vs stitched? Not sure I understand that… they do not stitch docked tails?... or did I misunderstand?
And he is too cute... how could someone just dump him????
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Wow, he and his sib were left in a plastic bag? Like trash?
Oh, that is just sad and sick.
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Duke looked like a little stuffed toy dog as a puppy. How cute!! Those little tufts in your bedspread…......Have they survived? Cory and Jayden would have taken care of those in short order.
It makes me ill to think of how Duke started his life. Did his brother also do okay?
Pat
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Docked vs stitched? Not sure I understand that… they do not stitch docked tails?... or did I misunderstand?
And he is too cute... how could someone just dump him????
He was an adorable puppy (with down-right sharp baby teeth and sheer piranah intent - giggling now) Maybe that is why he was dumped - but God made him cute just for me.
OK - vet indicated that breeds notable for docked tails, as in Doberman would normally be amputated between vertebrae and then the incision would be stiched back together on the tip end. Where as, Dukes tail was simply cut off and laid to heal on its own - raw. I saw the flesh end then. I feel his tail bone when he lets me touch it - he is very sensitive there. Does that make sense? I would never cut off a puppy dog's tail or ears. OK with dew claws if I ever have a choice.
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Duke looked like a little stuffed toy dog as a puppy. How cute!! Those little tufts in your bedspread…......Have they survived? Cory and Jayden would have taken care of those in short order.
It makes me ill to think of how Duke started his life. Did his brother also do okay?
Pat
Thanks Pat - his brother went to another family. He is named Oreo. I do not know how to contact them. I have tried to get informtion from Duke's champion rescuer (husbands co-worker.) But he seems to have no further contact with them. I do hope he is as fortunate/happy as Duke.
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He was an adorable puppy (with down-right sharp baby teeth and sheer piranah intent - giggling now) Maybe that is why he was dumped - but God made him cute just for me.
OK - vet indicated that breeds notable for docked tails, as in Doberman would normally be amputated between vertebrae and then the incision would be stiched back together on the tip end. Where as, Dukes tail was simply cut off and laid to heal on its own - raw. I saw the flesh end then. I feel his tail bone when he lets me touch it - he is very sensitive there. Does that make sense? I would never cut off a puppy dog's tail or ears. OK with dew claws if I ever have a choice.
Sound reasonable… I just know that a good friend just had a litter of Silky Terriers and they dock tails... they to cut between vertebrae, but don't stitch... however they might "glue"... not sure, will have to ask... thanks for the info...
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This boy is so lucky to have found you.
So, there is nothing to be done for the tail then?
Just hope the area gets tougher as he grows?
