Oh, I even didn't think about customs. Do you have any isea how much it is?
Basenji Wanted in CO
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Have you contacted anyone?? Your getting a lot of advice, but you keep asking the same thing over and over…...:) -
I'm waiting on a second email from the guy from cripple creek from yesterday, and I have sent emails to all 3 CO breeders from the basenji club of america (i think that's where i found them). but i've owned a couple dogs before, and a basenji is not quite the same as any of them. (2 huskies and a bernese mountain dog mix).
I do find myself repetitive, but i try not to do it if i can help it.
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I agree with Ambered….60 puppies a year!!!! warning! warning!:eek:
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Huge warning to stay away form Cripple Creek… no responsible breeder has 60 puppies a year.....
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i know how hard it is to find a puppy. i had a time finding one for my mother this puppy season. i spent hours online searching, sent numerous emails with breeders from all sides.
i would also like to add in a warning against using basenjirus.com !
i really dont want to tick anyone off, but seriously there are so many good resources. adding a dog is a huge decision. you need to do more research than you would buying a new car. if you make smart decisions you will have your dog for longer than i would keep any car. -
Hey there, I think everyone has been giving you some very good advice. The problem with so many people wanting dogs nowadays is that they want one NOW! The best thing for you is to have a little patience, as Basenjis only come into heat once a year.
And while it's true most Basenjis have puppies in the winter, my girl is going into heat in the spring instead of the fall.
Please for your sake, stay away from Cripple Creek (what a name…having Cripple in it!) To me it sounds like they are a BYB and they only want your money.
If you'd like to talk more with me about the breed PM me and I'll give you my cell number so we can chat...
-Danielle
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It's ok I got an older puppy so I do have a B now. I was willing to wait but i found one that looked good. After almost two weeks, I am still very happy with my puppy and he seems to be very happy with me unless he has to go into his crate, but we're working on that.
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Did you get it from Cripple Creek?
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Yeah, the number of puppies his family has is due to the fact that he has a small pack of dogs.
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I'm sorry to hear that.
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Yeah, the number of puppies his family has is due to the fact that he has a small pack of dogs.
Huh? The dogs are just running in a pack, and breed at will?
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Huh? The dogs are just running in a pack, and breed at will?
Kind of my reaction too??? However, regardless here is an example of a "pure for profit" BYB…. This is NOT a responsible breeder... and again I will say that I doubt this person did health testing before breeding any of these Basenjis....
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No they don't just breed at will, he separates them so he knows who's breeding with who and watches after the puppies, but he has 9 Bs on his large property that he takes care of and watches after. They are all AKC, so he has got to be at least on good standing with them. I am happy with my B and don't care if all you are going to do is critisize my choice to get a dog from someone not as uptight about checking out the possible homes and sort of background checking all possible puppy buyers like many of the other breeders I contacted.
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Can someone please tell me why people get upset when responsible breeders want to know about the homes their puppies are going to be placed in?
I put my heart and soul into raising my puppies and my dogs are part of my family. Yes, I screen homes, I ask questions but how could you expect anything less from a person who cares about the puppies they have brought into this world. I would run as far and as fast from someone who does not ask questions about a potential home as I could because I don't know how anyone who has socialized and cared for a litter the way it is necessary to do could not want the absolute best for those pups.
So next time anyone gets a offended by being asked questions about the home you could provide, stop and remember you are asking to take home a part of this person's family.
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No they don't just breed at will, he separates them so he knows who's breeding with who and watches after the puppies, but he has 9 Bs on his large property that he takes care of and watches after. They are all AKC, so he has got to be at least on good standing with them. I am happy with my B and don't care if all you are going to do is critisize my choice to get a dog from someone not as uptight about checking out the possible homes and sort of background checking all possible puppy buyers like many of the other breeders I contacted.
I think everyone here is just worried that you get a healthy dog with a good background. Even from someone very careful they can have problems with a dog. If you are happy with your puppy, that's is what is important. Please don't mistake the concern these people have for you as criticism. Most of these people have seen a lot of people just like you fall into something that will cause them heartbreak and pain. Don't forget these people have had B's for a long time and know the problems. We do not have a big gene pool like Shepherds or Labs. If you have been to the man's place and are comfortable then you are using your best judgement. Don't shut out what everyone is saying to you, either. When you need info or advice there is always someone who has been in a similar situation. And the reason a lot of B breeders check out the background of all possible puppy buyers is to limit the number of bad owners who expect a lovable lab without odours and who want to please their owners exclusively, and then dump the dogs when they become, "too much work." We, as breeders, and owners must be more diligent when placing puppies.
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My personal opinion is that people should want breeders to know about them, be involved with owners, like Lisa said, we put our heart and soul (and many dollars) trying to raise health, well adjusted Basenjis… not only as show/performance dogs but first and formost at wonderful family companions. People should not be put off when breeders want to know about them.... they should be pleased (at least IMO)... adopting a puppy is not like buying a car, yet more people take more time to do that then a living, breathing animal. People that breed 5 to 6 litters or more a year are in it for the money and the money only... there is no way that you can properly socialize that many pups... and have screened homes for them... Remember responsible breeders will advise people that this is not the right breed of dog for their lifestyle... and encourge them to look at other breeds (and give suggestions)... not every breed is right for every person/family... People that just "sell" puppies do not do "any" breed justice.
I am glad that you are happy with your pup, but that does not mean that the breeder was responsible, especially with that amount of litters. I doubt that if you checked the OFA website there is no health testing for any of his breeding stock... nor does he know what has happened and where all the pups are that he has bred and placed... which means he has no idea of what health concerns may have popped up.... -
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I am really glad you are happy with your puppy. I am sure he is wonderful and adorable. And I am really glad that we will be here to answer your questions and concerns as your B grows, because I am sure your breeder won't be able to offer the infomation needed regarding health and behavior issues. And I am sure your breeder won't be willing to take your dog back in five years, if your life situation changes and you can't keep him anymore. And I am sure your breeder won't offer you refund money to help with expenses if your dog develops an inherited disease like Fanconi, PRA or Hip Dysplasia.
You get what you pay for…I guess...in money, and/or effort. You can lead a horse to water....
But, honestly, the reason we are critical is because we care about the future of this ancient breed. And people who indiscriminately breed dogs together to make money will ruin our breed...period. And also because you asked for our opinions early on, we gave you great advice and information (if I do say so, myself) and you did what you wanted anyhow....if that were me, I would expect criticism, I guess._
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No they don't just breed at will, he separates them so he knows who's breeding with who and watches after the puppies, but he has 9 Bs on his large property that he takes care of and watches after. They are all AKC, so he has got to be at least on good standing with them. I am happy with my B and don't care if all you are going to do is critisize my choice to get a dog from someone not as uptight about checking out the possible homes and sort of background checking all possible puppy buyers like many of the other breeders I contacted.
I give you the lifetime of one basenji to come back here, and rescind that statement. I was the exact same as you when I got my first basenji. They are just so different from other dogs that you will realize that some breeders not only do the breed a disservice, but also their customers. I bought my first basenji from a pet-store/puppymill. I would buy him again if I could. If I had bought him from a breeder, and actually had some instruction, he'd still be alive today.
The reasons that I don't like those kinds of breeders? I've been involved in the rescue, foster, or transport of over 50 basenjis in the past year. All have come from breeders like you have described.
Please, don't be too put off by us now. As time goes on you will realize that there is a reason that buying a basenji is harder than buying a golden retriever.
Vegas
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This is the exact thing that I was talking about. But I also would like her to ask us questions if she needs us. We all have horror stories-but we also have been through alot. This person is just starting out. She'll have lots of questions that I would rather her ask us than just guess at the answers. I don't believe that a lot of people know that anyone can be AKC/CKC whether they are good breeders or not.
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AKC is a business that makes money registering dogs. It's easier to make money off of somebody that registers 1000 dogs/year, than it is to make money off of somebody who registers 5 dogs/year. People who think that having papers means anything about health, or quality are fooling themselves. All it means is "yep, you bought a basenji".
Those puppymills in MO convinced me that the AKC is total crap. I would never give them a dime of my money. In the words of tommy boy "really all you've bought is a guaranteed piece of crap."
