Thank you for all the input. Rocky has finally made friends with my son. He actually shaved his beard off and is just now spending some playtime with him
Rogue is biting.
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@roguecoyote - By the way, your puppy is related to my C-Me (GCH DC Klassic-Tanza Color Me Tri, SC). You can see a picture of her on my website, link below
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Try a toy on a string and they will not bit you only the toy and string.
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This is a typical puppy problem and tonight when I got home Piper wanted to play and I walked her but delayed play because my husband needed help with something....when I came back to give her my full attention she went right to biting mode, which is no longer a typical problem as she is 3 yrs old but it occurred to me that she was feeling slighted. I used to stop all play and curl up to give her no access to my arms when she was a puppy and would speak in a stern voice " no bite". She learned what that meant and she could be diverted to play with toys. My trainer said to allow some tug play because it challenges them and gives them reward but to limit it. Also the trainer taught me some sensory games to divert her mind from her mouth to her nose. Like throwing a treat across the room and have her find it.....then there is laser light tag....or ribbon chase....use diversion is what I am saying once you make it clear that you are not interested in the bite game. Good luck this phase lasts for a good while, but he will learn lighter bite soon. You can tell how smart these dogs are by their response to you. Piper would very often come back and sweetly lick my arm to make up for bite play after I scolded her.
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if you watch littermates teach each other the limits of ;social biting' immediate loud noise seems to be the signal from the bitten for 'too much' which you can approximate with an unpleasantly loud noise maker or shout
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@roguecoyote I'm going to try to address each item separately...
Biting: I usually address this problem with (Xylitol free) peanut butter. Take a very small amount (because your pup is so young) and spread it on the palm of your hand. Offer it to your pup and give them lots of praise for licking the smeared peanut butter off your hand. If biting begins, close your hand and say, "no bite" (or just "no"). When biting stops, the peanut butter licking can resume. Once or twice and the problem should be resolved.
Pink Paw Pads: It's cold out and there is a lot of salt and chemicals spread due to the snow and ice. Even if your pup is just in the backyard, you can still help protect their paws. Just rub a small amount of petroleum jelly on the paw pads. It provides a layer of protection for your pups paws. Not a lot, but a little is better than none.
Tug of War: In my opinion, it would be better to teach Rogue to "drop" the ball when she brings it back. There are going to be times when you want her to drop whatever is in her mouth. Like when she finds food in the bushes on a walk. Being able to say, "drop it", and actually have her spit out whatever she picked up could actually keep her from getting sick. Ideally, you want Rogue to eat what you give her because you will know that it's good for her. If you enjoy playing "tug", do it on another occasion. Keep "fetch" as a lesson in coming back and surrendering whatever she has in her mouth.
Overall: I think you are off to a good start. You ask really thoughtful questions about Rogue and her needs. You are giving her lots of love and attention. And you don't seem to be frustrated or annoyed with any of the puppy behavior. You and Rogue (and your Mom) are all lucky to have each other!
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@roguecoyote said in Rogue is biting.:
I've been trying to teach her to bite softly by letting her bite me
I think that is where you are starting to go wrong. She should be taught quite simply that biting is out.
Often it is attention seeking - don't let it get any. Ignore her, put her down, away from you, turn your back, walk away. Biting must not get her any attention from you. Rogue has to learn not to bite. You can also try growling at her as her mother would.
@tanza has the right of it. Don't get her over excited or she will bite more. Calm, move away. She will pick up the messages. She's an intelligent girl !
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@elbrant Is there an alternative? I'm allergic to peanuts, and I'm not seeing any almond butter or sun-butter for dogs. Rogue occasionally licks my face, and tries to groom my beard hairs. I also routinely have to remove small objects and bits of fuzz from her mouth. Giving her peanut butter probably wouldn't kill me, but I'd almost definitely get a rash.
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@roguecoyote - I don't really agree with elbrant's suggestion, especially if you have peanut allergies. You should not take that chance. Please go with a loud yelp or a very loud "NO" and turn/walk away from her... and let her settle down... she really will outgrow this but it is up to you to instruct her on what is no approprite. And that includes "no more tug".... Take care and have fun with her, you are doing a good job!
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@roguecoyote cream cheese is also a good alternative to peanut butter, especially the soft kind, as easy as peanut butter, and safe for your allergy.
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@roguecoyote said in Rogue is biting.:
Is there an alternative? I'm allergic to peanuts
Sorry, didn't know about your allergy. Skip the peanut butter! How about some plain Greek Yogurt? (again, check to make sure it doesn't contain Xylitol.)
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Hope these may help with Puppy Biting
4 SIMPLE Exercises That You Can Do To STOP Puppy Biting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IfzDIY5Ffs&list=PL7BBgLulhernexam5V0TGSy9daVSETS3B
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@elbrant We give her plain regular yogurt, just a table spoon mixed into about half her meals. (the other half she gets a table spoon of cottage cheese.) Is greek yogurt better?
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@roguecoyote Check to make sure it doesn't contain Xylitol. Manufacturer's use it on "diet" products and it can kill dogs. I don't know how much it takes, but don't risk it.
Plain regular yogurt should be fine. And cottage cheese is the best cheese to give Rogue.
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@zande said in Rogue is biting.:
@roguecoyote said in Rogue is biting.:
I've been trying to teach her to bite softly by letting her bite me
I think that is where you are starting to go wrong. She should be taught quite simply that biting is out.
Often it is attention seeking - don't let it get any. Ignore her, put her down, away from you, turn your back, walk away. Biting must not get her any attention from you. Rogue has to learn not to bite. You can also try growling at her as her mother would.
@tanza has the right of it. Don't get her over excited or she will bite more. Calm, move away. She will pick up the messages. She's an intelligent girl !
My 12 week old seems to just cling to the body part he's biting. He goes for my ankles (lol) and does not let go so walking away, not paying attention to or trying to pick up and put him down only gives him a new target (my hands). So, the "removing myself from the drama" thing I see said often online doesn't seem to make much sense if he's just going to keep biting as I walk or not let go.
Will try the treat tip earlier in the thread but whew.. some of these bites hurt! Ha
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@yahtzee92 said in Rogue is biting.:
My 12 week old seems to just cling to the body part he's biting. He goes for my ankles (lol) and does not let go so walking away, not paying attention to or trying to pick up and put him down only gives him a new target (my hands). So, the "removing myself from the drama" thing I see said often online doesn't seem to make much sense if he's just going to keep biting as I walk or not let go.
When a pup is persistent, you need to physically prevent the biting by saying "no" and taking hold of the pup and removing him from his target. Probably he will resist. Restrain him until he quits, then release him. Rinse, repeat. His mother would likely pin him down and growl in his face. Be like Mom. Let him know it is unacceptable.
"In order to get along with a Basenji, you have to be at least half as smart as the dog!"
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@eeeefarm said in Rogue is biting.:
His mother would likely pin him down and growl in his face. Be like Mom. Let him know it is unacceptable.
Growling is often a very effective way of getting something across - especially to a very young puppy.
