I agree with Lisa… while your list can be helpful, puppymillers have learned to look very reputable making it much harder to look at the website to determine. The bottom line is, no matter if they sell one breed or more, they can be a puppymill. And there are certainly some very legit responsible breeders with 2 or even 4 breeds! My entry into dog breeding/showing was a woman who had English bulldogs, her daughter had aghans and setters. If they don't have pedigrees and health testing info on the web page, I'd run. If they have it and you check OFA and find they falsified, or only maybe the current or some of their dogs have testing.. run. The rest they can fake or pretend but generations of health clearances generally aren't part of a puppymill.
New Puppy Crating Advice ... Feeling Discouraged
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There was no way the dog was EVER going to sleep in our bed. My resolve lasted 45 minutes. Rory climbed under the blankets at 12 weeks and slept there until her death at 16 years. With Tim, I didn't even pretend that the little guy wasn't going to sleep in the bed between us. I think if you took a poll of basenji owners you would find almost all of us allow the dogs to not only sleep with us but under the covers as well! I have 2 water-proof mattress cover/pads for the occasional accident (usually vomit), in case sheet changing is required during the night. But, it is a rare occurrence. And the best thing...Corn chip smell!
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@rgk9ruler Wow! Another 16-year-old Basenji! The Breed Profile says they usually live for 12 years. I had a stainless steel Crate and it was next to my bed. She spent HOURS pushing on the top of the Crate and she managed to slide the top back and got out!
She was sitting there very satisfied with herself and looked at me and said 'See what I did?!' When they go to that much trouble it is clear they will not be contained. She slept with me and was always under the covers at the bottom of the bed between my feet!
They are amazing and the ONLY time she was in the Crate was when we were driving someplace. She was an awesome traveler and a hilarious little spirit!
I miss her every day!!!
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@antigone said in New Puppy Crating Advice ... Feeling Discouraged:
That Sea of Puppies is a very fond memory for me. I know now that my Dog lived the longest of her litter. 16 years is a long time...Yes 16 years is a good long time. Of course we'd like it to be longer but nature will take its course, with them and us as well. Great that you have the memory. Puppies are quite wonderful things even if they are a ton of work.
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@jhewell Crates may be lifesavers. Training to a crate also is critical should the dog need to be hospitalized, or even emergency boarding. While I also had mine in the bed, it wasn't until they had crate training and I continued with training for a long time. Being able to settle into a crate is essential, in my opinion.
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@debradownsouth - I agree Debra... about crate training. Regardless of where your pup sleeps at night, crate training in general is a must for any dog. And especially when traveling. My Basenjis sleep in their crates (with the door open) their choice.... sometimes they will come get in bed but that is few and far inbetween.
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@debradownsouth My Dog was in her Stainless Steel Crate when we were going somewhere. I kept the Crate in the Car and she was an excellent traveler and would fall asleep until we reached our destination. Not crating in the House is something I did not do because it was not necessary. SHE did need her Crate when we would have to drive somewhere. They absolutely must be crated when in the Car or whatever vehicle you have.
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@tanza As I have said my Dog was in her Crate when we had to drive somewhere. She was an excellent traveler and fell asleep in the Crate, which I kept in my Car. They must be in the Crate when they are going to the Vet for sure.
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@donc Yes, I miss her every day! On December 23rd she would have been 20 Years old! I just love all animals and I have a weakness for the Hounds.
My first Dog was a Beagle and he bit everyone in the family except for me. The Vet who got his VMD in 1939 said to castrate him so my Dad had that done. I loved the Sea of Puppies and I am well aware that they are a ton of work! I will not get another Pup or Kitten until the Killer Cat has passed.
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@donc I totally agree with Don C. This is a huge transition for her! I didn't get my B pup until he was 12 weeks ago my experience is probably very different. My guy hated the crate at night and slept well in bed with me. He even woke me up to go out by digging in my hair! Not the best way to wake up but he definitely got the concept of telling me he wanted to go outside. Switched later to a bell. But I used classical music and once I found them, Through a Dogs ear, CDs while at work during the day and he did much better in n the crate. My guy also did well with NPR on the radio too.
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My breeder suggested I crate my girl and also told me that she was a climber and had climbed over fences, etc. I never crated my girl and she never climbed once. She has her little bed next to ours and will take herself off to bed around 6 (almost to the minute) which is up a flight of stairs - by herself. Around 12 midnight or 1 she'll hop into bed with us usually because the blankets have come off and she's a bit cold. It's lovely sleeping with her. Just remember Julie, don't wake them up suddenly because they get a fright and might nip. I just call my girl's name a few times and she comes around. She usually wakes me by poking me if she needs to pee during the night but that's probably once a month. She just waits until walk time in the morning.
I've never crated in a car, just put her bed in the back seat and in she hops and goes to sleep. But the breeders on this site advise crating and that might be good advice for you. If I have to go away overnight and my daughter can't come and baby sit (!) then she stays at the vets (four houses away) and they crate her at night. And she's fine (usually because there's a resident cat who loves playing with my dog). I've even walked past and seen her sleeping peacefully and safe in the crate.
There is much good advice in these posts Julie, try them and see if they work for you, and, more importantly, if they work for your basenji - listen to them. It sounds like you do. Persevere, and keep coming back to this forum if you need further help.
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I’m way late to the conversation. Actually new to the forum. But I highly recommend getting a snuggle buddy for any pup. I got my basenji baby a week ago and he has slept through every night in his crate no problem. It’ll be a long time before he’s allowed in the bed. We are currently having a bad nipping stage and I prefer to not wake up bleeding. He does whine when he has to go out overnight and I let him out and he goes straight back to sleep. The snuggle buddy he only gets when in the crate. He does throw a fit in his crate without it. It has a real feel heartbeat so he feels like he’s with a littermate. They are cheapest on Amazon. I had also left a small stuffed toy with the breeder after I picked him out so by the time he came home it was saturated with their scent. That goes in the crate with him too. Hope that helps anyone who has crate issues in the future.
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Super late here but just wanted to pass it along also. I used the Sounds True cds (Through a Dogs Ears) when my B was in his crate during the daytime. Since it is very slow paced classical music timed to a slow dog heart beat pace. It's helped my guy calm down before.
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@pippi said in New Puppy Crating Advice ... Feeling Discouraged:
But the breeders on this site advise crating and that might be good advice for you
Sadly, the crates help the dog not interfere with your driving. In case of a crash, it keeps them from running off. They sadly don't help protect the dogs. Even all the harnesses... don't help. They found only one harness and the super mega steel crates used by police to actually protect the dog.
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Crate for sleeping at night should always be in the bedroom with their people. Should be close to the bed. I use wire crates and typically have more than one Basenji so the crates are all next to each other, but still in the room we sleep in. If an only Basenji should be next to your bed that that your pup knows where you are and you can dangle your fingers in the crate to assure them you are there. And cover the crate to make it more den like. Agree with a "crate buddy" stuffed big toy... and this crate buddy should only be used in the crate at night. I have never had any of my Basenjis sleep in any other room other then the one I sleep in. I also agree that in a car any dog should be confined in a crate, period.
