Because by then they should be hormonally mature even if not fully structurally mature. I don't read much research - I follow experience !
Ideally, not at all, but if they MUST be spayed, then let them grow up first.
Oakley-emergency surgery
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Thanks everyone for all the support and good wishes. It was a long sleepless night; I just can't seem to sleep soundly without a little boy laying on top of me!! I called last night before ten to get an update. The tech told me they ha him on a warm water bed to bring his temp up because it was still low (although creeping up)…she said he was being quiet ( totally not him) but that he was heavily medicated...she said he was looking around and once looked right at her while on the phone with me
It's going to be a looooong morning because I won't hear anything until around noon...I'm hoping they can successfully get him to eat and keep down food.
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have you heard anything yet? sending healing thoughts to you and Oakley. And honestly, it really is not just a Basenji thing, eating things they should not. I know a Dobe that the owners said they should just put a zipper in his belly as they were on their 3rd ER surgery
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have you heard anything yet? sending healing thoughts to you and Oakley. And honestly, it really is not just a Basenji thing, eating things they should not. I know a Dobe that the owners said they should just put a zipper in his belly as they were on their 3rd ER surgery
oh very true. ask any vet about rock eating labs!
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Hope so Pamela, it's been a whirlwind of emotions: guilt,worry, upset…you name it...my fingers are crossed, prayers spoken...
I understand the vortex of emotions! But no need to feel guilty– you think you have everything out of reach, then they find a way. There is nothing Ava won't try to eat-- and nothing (so far) she can't find a way to get. I spend half of my waking hours digging things out of her mouth and the other half trying to find ways to keep them out in the first place.
I hope Oakley is recuperating quickly. I bet he'll be home tonight-- they'll be glad to spring him! Every Basenji owner knows that look of sheer relief that crosses people's faces when you arrive to claim your pup. I have had Ava practically shoved at me in their eagerness to unload her.
Healing thoughts and hugs to you and Oakley. Hope he's home and on the mend soon!
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Just called to get an update on Oakley. He got a lot of rest last night. This morning he started to act more like himself, jumping in his crate to try and reach IV cords, getting out of his e collar and bucking when the dr tries to check his heartbeat…they stopped pain meds and he's on an anti inflammatory...they tried feeding him without great success, he regurgitated. So the injection of motility medications last night wasn't good enough so they started him on a drip of motility meds to get his intestines functioning again...they also put him on medication for esopogeal irritation...they'll try to re-feed at three. If that goes well there's a chance of a late night discharge however our vet believes Oakley will likely need another night of supportive care, IV medications since he indeed seems to be slow to get his GI tract functioning again.
This is torture. Didn't sleep well...trying to get motivated to do chores, and prepare for oak to come home but it's hard if he's not coming home tonight
I know it's best for him to stay until he's ok, it's just hard! Good news is they didn't have to use any sedation meds today for his anxieties!!I want my little boy back
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I am so glad to hear that he is doing better. Hopefully he can come home soon!
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Hugs.. and hope that he is home soon!
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Poor you, but it does sound he is getting excellent care - and more sleep than you are
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Sometimes I think it's harder on us than it is on them! How's the little guy doing? Is he keeping his food down and coming home to mom?
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I'm ecstatic to announce that Oakleys coming home tonight!!! He's being release at 8 tonight. The vet said she's not 100% comfortable with him coming home and if it were ANY other dog she'd keep them for another night of supervision and fluids BUT now that Oakleys feeling better and back to his old behaviors they have to sedate him and doing so only slows down his GI tract which isn't good either. She'd rather him be comfortable at home. The dr said the pain meds were having an effect and he was sensitive to them which was suppressing mood. Once she made the med switch he flipped a switch and started to perk up, have an appetite and start trying to escape his crate, buck and be a "doodle"…he's able to eat a couple teaspoons at a time of food and she said he eat more of they let him but for the next two days round the clock feeding o a tablespoon to keep something moving his tract at all times. He did regurgitate "one drop" but Dr. Thomas was sure it was because he was spinning in circles (lol)...he will come home with a slew of meds (I think 7) which includes: motility meds for his intestines, anti nausea meds, esopogeal irritation meds...Prilosec..and so on. It'll be an intensive couple of days but I can't be happier to hear the little stink is acting up and is hungry...totally thrilled and nervous at the same time... Perhaps it's time to think about emergency pet insurance...considering he's two and a half and has been admitted twice to the hospital?! As Dr. Thomas says "he's a dog that likes to eat stuff"...and he is.
Will update once I get him home and settled!!! Thanks everyone
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So glad the surgery was relatively simple and that he is acting more like himself , thinking of you and sending hugs.
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I am so happy for you! the only thing i can add, is to ask the vet if there is anything you need to get before you pick him up. I know when Zest! had her HGE they told me to feed her baby food. (never had a baby, so never had baby food in the house) So hubby sat in the car with her while we stopped at the grocery. If you don't have a second person, it would be easier to pick the food up without having to worry about him eating the inside of your car.
I'm sure you'll get lots more sleep tonight and happy dreams!
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Great news! So glad to hear. And excellent idea about stopping by the grocery first. Sounds like you're in 24/7 caregiver mode for a while… but it's SO much better to have them home when they're sick.
When Spencer had that touch-n-go surgery and recuperation, Hill's a/d canned food saved us. He would keep that down when everything else came back up. It's critical care food for dogs after life-threatening illness or surgery and is like canine souffle. If the vet's anticipating any issues, you might ask-- though it could be too rich for Oakley's situation.
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Thanks agile- I preboiled his hamburger and pulsed it through the food processor and picked up his Prilosec…glad I got that done. On my way to the ER to get him!!!!!
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It's nice to see an Emergency story with a happy ending….
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The bad news about insurance, Chealsie, is that nothing he has had wrong with him before will be covered (which could be anything gastro-intestinal now…) and they will also charge a fortune....
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Great news for you, make sure you rest when he rests. Hoping he has a speedy recovery and things get back to normal for you.
Jolanda and Kaiser
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I'm exhausted
Oakley needs round the clock care…his med schedule literally gives me a headache...
Metacam- at noon, with foodTramadol- 8am,4pm and midnight for three to five days then twice a day for an additional 3-5 days
Sucralfate- 6am, 2pm,10pm...dissolve 1/2 tab into a slurry and syringe feed- give 20 minutes before food or other meds * two hours away from Prilosec!!
Metoclopramide- 6am,6pm and midnight....1/2 tab every 6 hours for 24 hours then every 8 hours for 2-3 days then x2 day for 1-2 days then x1 day for another 1-2 days
Metronidazole- noon and midnight...1/2 tab every 12 hours for 2-3 days
Omeprezole- 4pm
Oof!! I'm trying to wrap my head around it all while keeping him from getting at his incision and trying to pill him without being able to wrap the pills in any food...figuring out how I'll do this when I start work onwednesday....and watching him like a hawk bc he's still licking and upset after food...which is normal to be burpy and unsettles but it makes me worry...and he hasn't pooped since Thursday...again normal but I just want conformation his GI tract is ok...
Worried non stop but happy he's home. The tech practically shoved h at me...they kept telling me they're never met a dog like him: that he's a punk....many time he escaped his crate and was found walking around the hospital, chewing his IV cords, getting out of his e collar that was already lengthened to that of a big dogs bc he'd still get at his stitches...getting into the trash when leashed to go out.. They called me in and told me he was a punk and that they felt bad for him when he was feeling lousy but since he pepped up they all wanted him to go home..they call him Houdini..
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Gosh! when I read it was Oakley, I am soooo sorry. Not one of us has NOT gone through something with our babies that grieves us and puts us to wits end! What a literal nightmare, but so glad you found the strength you needed in the forum which is therapeutic to write out your worries….. God bless the Vet, you and prayers out for your Oakley for a rapid comeback. Not even easy now, but just think, one day you may even laugh about all this!
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Know what you're going through with the meds, Chealsie! We had almost the same ones for Tex the last time he had surgery for his extracurricular dining - and the last time he passed the plastic in the office before the surgery, thank goodness. Some good news, the Tramadol is for pain, so you can ease him off on that if he doesn't seem to be in pain, especially the midnight one (although it will help him sleep) The 'pill poppers,' which you can get at Petco or PetSmart, are great for giving pills when you can't hide them in food. Keeps your fingers from getting chomped and you can get them way back in the throat. And when he's eating a little better, you can give them with a small amount of food (scrambled eggs worked well for us). If worst comes to worst, ask the vet for a prescription and go to a compounding pharmacy and see if they can make everything liquids!
Tex was also kicked out of the vet hospital for the same reasons as Oakley, except he didn't manage to get out of the crate!!
