@elbrant It goes on till we get where we are going then he knows when we are going home because he is much more relaxed. So we do not go on many car rides.
Nipping / Biting
How do I teach her away from nipping / biting? She just won't stop and believes that everything is a game. If I try to stand up and walk away she follows me and bites my toes, when I try to stop her she bites my hands…
I've tried turning her on the back in a submissive position while looking at her until she calms, but as soon as I let her go she returns to biting even fiercer than before. It's really slowly getting out of hands now
I'm thinking it might be because she has a lot of energy to burn, but since we can't go outside because it's -30C (-22F) and she's only 8 weeks old, I don't really have any means to tire her out.
Can you get a Bitter Apple spray. its at Petsmart here.
Its bitter, and most dogs won't touch it once they have had it in their mouths.
Spray your hands and feet and things in the house you don't want her to chew, and give her things she can chew…
I am sure you will have lots of suggestions from others.
Janneke last edited by
Maybe you can buy these cat toys on a stick.. Lot of B's like to chase them around and it's a good way to tire them down. Or maybe a ball with candy in it. You can try to hide some treats and let her find it..
You can also learn her the command 'sit'. As soon as she bites or plays rough just tell her to sit. As soon as she does that, play a game with her, give her something she is allowed to bite in/chew on.. This worked really well for Tillo when he was a pup (and it still works now when he gets sooo excited he thinks its fun to bite in your arm :rolleyes:)
irena last edited by
We have still 3 pups from our litter at home and one boy is really crazy and devilish. When he bite me during the game I tug his coat on neck and say NO!
I did the same with all of our adults when they were pups and it has worked good. Now when they are already adult and they are naughty I just say NO and they become quiet.
About the spray, I have a one at home (not the same kind) and it isn't working very well because puppies want to lick that :rolleyes::D.
Thanks I'll try what's been posted here! I just had some success with spraying a little water on her when she bites, but I find that a bit evil and I don't want her to act differently out of being scared.
anmus last edited by
i have the same problem with my puppy and the solution i use so far,
is to have 2 or 3 toys that he's allowed to chew, always near by
and as soon he starts to bite my hands, i say NO and i give him one of them
for him to bite. I think patience is needed, it's natural for puppies to bite each other in their games, plus their teeth are growing and really bothers them.
lvoss last edited by
Here is a great article on teaching your puppy bite inhibition.
It really helps if you are also starting to teach "sit" so you can take a "time out" by reinforcing calm behavior with a short training session. This is what we are doing with L'Ox. He is actually pretty good about his nipping and mouthing but when he starts to get tired and is fighting sleep he gets too rough and won't even listen to our adult dogs. So we take a time out and play the sit for treats game. He loves food so this is an easy redirection for him and helps him calm and then either play nicely or settle down for a nap.
listeme last edited by
Zelda is now 13 (!) weeks, and we had some of this issue, as well. We also got her a bit on the young side, which I understand is a factor. (We had some circumstances that contributed to bringing her home young, but in the future I'll lean towards older.) She was also in this stage during DC's storm of the century. We definitely had the cabin fever problem. So… some things that helped.
1. Having her hang out with some older basenji aunties at my sister's. Aunties are great for teaching manners.
2. Non-hand games like chasing. During the snowstorms, we did stair play. One of us would station at the top and the other at the bottom, clickers and treats at the ready. This reinforced recall and tired her the heck out. Throw balls. Let her rip some recycling up.
3. Pack mimicking responses -- yelping at our skin being touched by teeth, turning our backs. Several times we used the crate, but we were really careful not to make it a punishment. We didn't say anything or act at all angry. We just put her in to chill.
4. The monks of new skete recommend making the biting unpleasant by putting your finger into her throat enough to make her gag and then immediately presenting your palm to lick. My husband had great luck with this. I think my fingers are too short or something.
5. Our breeder recommends gently pushing her lip into the way when she goes for hands. Again, some success with this.
6. My favorite method was one I have only seen in the monks book, which was putting a few molecules of butter on the back of my hand to encourage non-biting hand interaction. Then treat the heck out of her while I pet her.
7. When she is a whirlwind, keep hands away. I didn't want her to make mistakes. It seemed nearly irresistible to her, so why tempt her?
8. Hand her a toy before starting to pet her.
If at 9 weeks, she was at 100 percent, now 4 weeks later she is at about 8 percent. This stage does pass. Just try not to lose your mind We found that nothing was a miracle cure, but everything helped. And now she is getting "maturity"
nobarkus last edited by
My Buddy did this too even after long walks. He would just get a bit crazy and even on walks he sometimes jumps up and the biting especially if there's a dog across the street or we pass walking by somebody. He's calming down but I just have calm him down when he starts. He's doing it less and less as he matures.
thunderbird8588 last edited by
Thanks for the link Ivoss, i have had a quick look and will keep it for reference.
I had got the idea that biting and mouthing shouldn't be allowed at all. However as the article says it can be a useful tool to work on control with your Dog and if you play fight with an adult it can be used to maintain bite inhibition.
I used to playfight with Benji and he realy hurt, at the time i didn't realise i could have tried to teach him to be gentle.
lvoss last edited by
It is a common misconception that it is better to teach a dog not to bite instead learning to inhibit their bite. The problem with that is if the dog then does escalate to a bite it will most likely be severe. By teaching them to have soft mouths you help to decrease the likelihood of a severe bite.
thunderbird8588 last edited by
Thanks for that Ivoss, i used to enjoy play fighting with benji but felt like i shouldn't be doing it.
I will bear this in mind when teaching our Pup.
sinbaje last edited by
I put together a very verbose puppy packet pdf for work (50 some odd pages worth) for puppies in my class(es) at work and for puppies I breed and send to their new homes. I sent the pdf to Jan Robert in Australia (Tamsala) when she got a new pup and she asked to reproduce some of it for an Aussie publication. Mia in Sweden saw the following article and asked to use on her website so it must have some good ideas. :O) Hope it helps.
Ouch! Mouthy Puppies
Linda Daves Siekert, CVT www.sinbaje.com
All puppies are "mouthy"; born without hands their mouths help them to play, explore and manipulate their world. Mouthing should never be confused with biting; mouthing is a learning process while biting is a corrective measure having much more force behind it. Unfortunately incorrect handling by an owner can turn a normal mouthy puppy into a potentially dangerous biting puppy.
Puppies quite often nip and mouth while playing or in greeting. One of the most frustrating problems owners have with young puppies is the playful mouthing and nipping of human hands, arms, legs and clothing. Unlike biting, this type of behavior isn't intended to do harm but it can tear clothes and result in cuts and bruises on bare skin, particularly an older person's skin. If left uncontrolled, it will become worse due to the puppy's incorrect belief that nipping is an acceptable way to greet and play with their humans.
When working with a mouthy puppy, always keep in mind that the puppy does not know how to act around humans; it is our job to teach them while not encouraging the very behavior we want to avoid though inappropriate games (tug-o-war) or responses (yelling, hitting). Many inexperienced dog owners will punish a puppy for mouthing. This is counterproductive, harmful to the puppy's mental health, and will actually teach the puppy to use aggressive methods to solve problems.
If you have a mouthy puppy, avoid putting your hands or face in or near your puppy's face to avoid unintentional contact with razor sharp teeth. When interacting, do not make quick or vigorous movements, especially around his head or face; in fact all physical contact (petting) with mouthy pups should be controlled and delivered in super slow motion; especially if your pup is in a particularly jazzed up and nippy mood. Slowing your movements down will help your pup to slow itself down and alleviate the excitement that precludes being mouthy. If necessary, a timeout might be in order.
When a puppy is too mouthy, terminate all social interaction and ignore. If your pup continues to grab or nip you or your clothes, cross your arms and look away from, even walk away (slowly) from him so he learns that nipping gets no response from you. By no response we mean do not speak, make eye contact, and most importantly, do not touch your dog to try and redirect it; all of these are social interactions and are rewarding to a certain degree for your pup. If your puppy is worse when children are playing, try to keep him separated from the play or put him on leash to better control his behavior. Never let children tease or excite puppies into nipping and mouthy play.
If at any time your pup should grab your hand with his mouth, the absolute worst thing you can do is quickly pull your hand away. Why? Every interaction with your pup teaches him something and at every interaction he is storing information for future use. The second he learns that grabbing at your hand makes your hand (at the time unintentionally) go away, he will store that for a time when he intentionally wants you, or your hand, to go away. The difference being, when he intentionally wants you to go away, he will increase the force of how he grabs you. Bingo! You no longer have a mouthy pup you have a biting pup.
Instead, the second he grabs at your hand cease all movement but continue to keep your hand on your pup. Continuing to move your hand could incite the pup to continue being mouthy; the goal is for the pup to come to the conclusion on his own that it is in his best interest to not grab. If you cease movement, you cease being fun and he should cease being mouthy. When he releases your hand, reward with low-key verbal praise, or a toss of a favorite toy or better yet, yummy treats. Do not reward with any kind of petting as it might encourage him to once again grab at your hand.
If these strategies are not effective, the use of non-physical aversives might be necessary. Water from a squirt bottle, loud sounds from a whistle, air horn or penny shaker (an empty soda can filled with a few pennies and sealed) are all effective aversives. Timing is crucial however; you must catch him at the very moment he nips, and the aversive of choice must be used consistently for it to work long term. Don't forget low-key praise or a favorite chew toy for when he correctly responds to the aversive and stops nipping. Never forget the reward aspect (it has greater power than an aversive) and always reward calm, relaxed behavior any time it is displayed.
Remember, a puppy does not know what is right and wrong unless it is appropriately shown. Never punish by hitting, slapping, kicking or any other physical means; this causes unnecessary fear, aggression and will only make the problem worse.
Dealing with puppies takes patience and consistency. Everyone in the household must deal with the puppy in the same way to effectively teach new behaviors. It is best that children do take an active role in shaping behavior but are not the primary teacher. Taking the time to deal with these problems the minute they arise is easier than trying to correct a more habitual problem later in life.
Sinbaje- what very good advice and very detailed. As mentioned I have always found that when a pupy "bites" me I can generally stop it by yelping and so imitating a litter mate who might get hurt in play. 90 % of the time I find this effective.
Very nice article, good job Linda. I wish I knew all this many years ago, whn I aquired my first puppy..The squealing like a puppy has worked for us as well..
nobarkus last edited by
Great info Sibaje! I have a 1 year old that's still a little mouthy bitey. In greeting someone he'll jump up and grab their sleeve or play bite and tug their hand. He can get highly excitable too. So this is good info I can use.
Wow thanks sinbaje!