Update on Lana

Hi all,

a few of you were so kind to answer the questions I posted regarding breeding my tri girl, Lana. Well, here's an update: all the tests (Fanconi, hips, thyroid, eyes) came back clear/normal/good, and we are ready to breed. The dog we chose is Ch Bushbabies Red Ryder from Bushbabies Basenjis in Livermore, CA. Lana and Ryder make an awesome pair, he should also fix a couple of things that Lana is not awesome on - a slightly lower ear set and a looser tail curl. They also have very similar personalities (great ones, too) and like each other a lot. We think that Lana is starting to come in season now, so breeding will happen sometime over the next two weeks, and hopefully she will take no problem! One of my goals and hopes for the litter is to get a red girl that I can keep and show. Besides those two things mentioned above, we were told (by a knowledgeable person and a basenji judge) that Lana is a very nice girl, she has correct proportions, she is leggy, nice effortless movement, etc. She is not a show dog though, she has never been shown and most likely never will be for various reasons, but I really want a B of my own to show! So there is a chance of getting a very nice litter of puppies (keep your fingers crossed for me, everyone!) that might have potential in the show ring. Well that's a long term goal and we'll see what happens in reality. Meanwhile we are just looking forward to having babies, because basenji puppies are just about the cutest thing in the world!

Will the puppies be sold on spay/neuter contracts? Since Ryder is a Carrier, will you be testing all of your puppies prior to placing them? Does your contract include a statement that though Carriers will not become Affected by Fanconi, they can produce Fanconi Affected offspring if not bred according to the recommended breeding guidelines.

I know Ryder well, I showed him to his Championship for Terri… and he is a sweet boy. As lvoss noted he is a carrier, so you really need to be sure to test all the pups since you can get both Clear and Carriers from that breeding. And I concur about placing on spay/neuter contracts or co-ownerships. Along with the about making sure people understand about Fanconi and if not bred according to recommended guidelines and a Carrier, can and will produce Fanconi. Do you already have a reservation list of potential puppy adoptors?

Good for you for doing all the testing on your girl... would love to know her breeding if you would care to share.... honestly too, a loose tail curl is not a fault... if you want to get right down to it, Ryder has a bigger tail fault because it is set to low on his butt and sticks up like a helicoptor... that was the worst problem I had with him in the show ring is that he would drop his tail straight down between his back legs...ggg He was a challange at times....

Good luck with the breeding, hope everything goes well 🙂

Yes, I am planning to test the puppies for Fanconi and provide that information to potential buyers. As far as spay/neuter quotes on contracts, I would like to see whether some/all the pups have show potential. If so, then we are going to have to go about it a different way, if people decide they want to show/breed them. For the puppies that are strictly pet quality, we will put a spay/neuter quote on the contract. I am not going to even worry about contracts until the puppies are born and I see that they are healthy and I can start showing them to people.

Is there any other tests that are recommended for pups besides Fanconi and the general health test? And the dew claws removed?

CERF exams should be done before they go to their new homes. Usually between 8-10 weeks old. You will also want to have them microchipped.

I also would not wait until you have puppies on the ground to start thinking about things like contracts. It is normal for perspective owners to want to see your contract in advance of making a commitment and you really should have a waiting list prior to them being born. Most breeders have two contracts, a show contract and a pet contract that they can provide to perspective owners so they can review them and ask questions as necessary.

I am curious, how do you plan to evaluate your puppies for show potential when you have not shown the breed and do not attend shows? Have you attended a seminar like Pat Hasting's Puppy Puzzle to know the general non-breed specific evaluation techniques?

@lvoss:

I am curious, how do you plan to evaluate your puppies for show potential when you have not shown the breed and do not attend shows? Have you attended a seminar like Pat Hasting's Puppy Puzzle to know the general non-breed specific evaluation techniques?

Terri Gavaletz will be doing the evaluations of the pups. She shows and judges, so I think we are covered 😉 She also said she'd help with contracts…

Also, yes, I've attended seminars and I have shown an Old English Sheepdog and a doberman in the past, so I know a little about general evaluation...

@lvoss:

CERF exams should be done before they go to their new homes. Usually between 8-10 weeks old. You will also want to have them microchipped.

I also would not wait until you have puppies on the ground to start thinking about things like contracts. It is normal for perspective owners to want to see your contract in advance of making a commitment and you really should have a waiting list prior to them being born. Most breeders have two contracts, a show contract and a pet contract that they can provide to perspective owners so they can review them and ask questions as necessary.

Ok… Will have to start thinking about it earlier I guess. I do have a few people who are interested in a pet B, so I guess I can start with those.

Congrats on Lana's good health results. Good luck with the breeding. Can't wait to see puppy pics 🙂

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