New Imports requesting admission to Stud Books


  • @snorky998:

    Excellent!!

    Why were some votes withheld? Were they the importers and therefore a conflict of interest issue? Just wondering.

    What do you mean withheld? There are members that most likely abstained because they were the ones that own the dogs. There were some that got there to late and some that "didn't" follow the directions for voting, not many however.

    The ones I referred to are people that didn't bother to vote at all. Only about 1/2 of the membership voted. I am sure that many people figure that they have only pets that maybe came from rescue or even from a responsible breeder, but because they do not breed, show, etc… it was not important for them to weigh in with their vote. This I totally disagree with, it is everyones responsiblilty to take an interest in the longevity of our breed that includes health, temperament and conformation....


  • I am shocked that so many didn't vote.
    Its so important for the breed as a whole to get this new blood in.

    Pat, do you have any idea how adding this new blood will be done?


  • To clarify, when I went to the link I saw "Approved. Curby vote withheld" or "Approved. Curby and Schreiber vote withheld". I was just wondering what that meant.


  • @tanza:

    What do you mean withheld? There are members that most likely abstained because they were the ones that own the dogs. There were some that got there to late and some that "didn't" follow the directions for voting, not many however.

    The ones I referred to are people that didn't bother to vote at all. Only about 1/2 of the membership voted. I am sure that many people figure that they have only pets that maybe came from rescue or even from a responsible breeder, but because they do not breed, show, etc… it was not important for them to weigh in with their vote. This I totally disagree with, it is everyones responsiblilty to take an interest in the longevity of our breed that includes health, temperament and conformation....

    Overall, I was happy to see the numbers that were invalid or disapproved were so low. I completely agree with you about the number of members that didn't vote.It seems to me that if you make the effort to join the BCOA - to find members to sponsor you, you pay your dues and then join, then you would want to take part in such an important vote. For me as a fairly new member (a little over a year), it felt like a privilege to be able to participate in this vote.


  • @snorky998:

    To clarify, when I went to the link I saw "Approved. Curby vote withheld" or "Approved. Curby and Schreiber vote withheld". I was just wondering what that meant.

    In this example each of those people own a dog that was being voted upon…so I assume they withheld to avoid appearing to have a conflict of interest.


  • @renaultf1:

    Overall, I was happy to see the numbers that were invalid or disapproved were so low. I completely agree with you about the number of members that didn't vote.It seems to me that if you make the effort to join the BCOA - to find members to sponsor you, you pay your dues and then join, then you would want to take part in such an important vote. For me as a fairly new member (a little over a year), it felt like a privilege to be able to participate in this vote.

    Me too! I find it strange that someone who cared enough to join the club wouldn't want to weigh in on the fundamental essence of the club….human nature is strange...


  • @snorky998:

    To clarify, when I went to the link I saw "Approved. Curby vote withheld" or "Approved. Curby and Schreiber vote withheld". I was just wondering what that meant.

    Both Curby and Schreiber submitted dogs, so it was appropriate for them to withhold their vote, since it was their dogs


  • @Quercus:

    Me too! I find it strange that someone who cared enough to join the club wouldn't want to weigh in on the fundamental essence of the club….human nature is strange...

    I agree, while they might say, "I don't know enough"… then their responsibility is to learn... they are owners of the breeder and therefore, IMO have a responsibility to learn about the breed and be part of the solution to improve our breed for years to come.


  • @tanza:

    I agree, while they might say, "I don't know enough"… then their responsibility is to learn... they are owners of the breeder and therefore, IMO have a responsibility to learn about the breed and be part of the solution to improve our breed for years to come.

    I agree 100%.

    Just curious, but Pat, do you know if the African Stock vote had a higher or lower response level than the AKC Group Re-Alignment vote or was it about the same.


  • @renaultf1:

    I agree 100%.

    Just curious, but Pat, do you know if the African Stock vote had a higher or lower response level than the AKC Group Re-Alignment vote or was it about the same.

    I don't know what the response level was for the AKC group re-alignment was and I don't think that it was noted any place either. However, I would guess it was lower then the Af Stock vote…. But then the response level for elections is really pitiful....


  • Cool! I've met one one of the puppies out of Rakita…very cool looking brindle. Can't wait to see him grow up. Wish I was already a BCOA member, I would have voted!


  • Beautiful dogs, thanks for sharing.


  • As a newbie to the breed, I took this opportunity to try to learn more about the "Africans" :). What fantastic information it is too…

    I have downloaded all the information on these dogs, and I am currently in the middle of assessing these beauties myself, before I read what the 3assessors have said about them... I think I have done a pretty good job of critiquing them, I might add :D.

    Thank you for allowing a newbie to get such valuable info especially as it is such a huge project, and one that perhaps no other breed is able to do, (at least that I am aware of :)).

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