We bought here: http://www.dogcollars.nl/
Very nice collars
not sure if anone already knows about this site. i have purchased several collars from him.
These are nice! i like the safety choke design. I am going to order one. Thanks for posting.
Nick is very nice , he does this in his spare time , so if there is a delay in communication he is probably out on his hog . and will get back to you .
the collars are excellent quality.