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  • @dcmclcm4:

    I had an elderly BRAT rescue, Annie, who at 15/16 had accidents like that. She had a favorite sleep spot and as soon as I saw her getting up, I would pick her up and take her outside to do her business. She usually could not make it to the door without having an accident. Annie slept so soundly and for long periods of time that just getting up and moving made her need to go and wherever she was, she went!

    Jennifer

    I hear that about sleeping so soundly… I would wake and carry my elders out ever 4 hours at most to pee... or we would have a wet bed... save rubber sheets...gggg

    It was not fun to sleep 3 to 4 hours... but in the end it was worth it for the elders that they didn't have to sleep in pee soaked sheets (and us too).... one of the price to pay for have our elders. I do not regret it for a minute!

  • Pat-
    did you try pee pads? i'm just wondering if we get to the point you were, if pads would be an option. Winter here in colorado is a bit different from where you are.

  • @agilebasenji:

    Pat-
    did you try pee pads? i'm just wondering if we get to the point you were, if pads would be an option. Winter here in colorado is a bit different from where you are.

    I did, but OJ never could really figure them out… and the others just wanted to tear them up.... I used pee pads on the bed in case of accidents. That and the rubber backed sheets. OJ just never really knew that he was peeing it just happened....

  • thanks. Diggie doesn't pee in his sleep and so far, if I take him out every 2-3 hours we're fine. He doesn't pee in the house if nobody is home or at night. When we get to that point, I'll look into rubberized sheets and maybe try the pee pads. He does like to do the wondering pee, so pads may be difficult. I just remember this past winter when we had quite a few days in the negative numbers with the windchill factor. So, it takes several minutes to dress myself and the dog/s before going out.

  • Follow up-

    Okay, I thought this might be useful for somebody. I took Digital to Dr Jim, our wonderful holistic vet, and Diggie is now on ginsing. Dr Jim was encouraging and thought this (or a different herb) would help. Otherwise, he couldn't find anything even remotely off with my brindlewonderkid. So, we'll see. I hope this helps b/c I really can't see Diggie going out every two hours when winter comes to Colorado.

  • Interesting - I have a senior fanconi dog that is peeing in the house as well. What is the Ginsing supposed to be for?

  • I'm not exactly sure as this was a while ago. And last July he was diagnosed as having kidney failure (nonFanconi).

  • I'm not exactly sure as this was a while ago and it did not work. And last July he was diagnosed as having kidney failure (nonFanconi). So, i have lots of pee pads where he likes to pee. Sometimes he misses. Sometimes his front feet are on the pad, sometimes just his back feet, and the pee stream misses the pad. I just do what I can and do lots of cleaning. I like the Fizzion brand for clean up. (got it off amazon.)

  • Fizzion - never heard of it, I'll have to check it out.

    Do you have him crated when you are not home? Do you have pee pads in his crate with him or how do you manage his need to pee frequently when you are not home?

  • i do not crate him. just have the pee pads where he likes to pee. he always has hated being crated and at 16, i'm not going to. I do have 1/2 the hall way blocked off, so he has the den, the kitchen and 1/2 the hall when we're out. Of course we're also looking to scrap this house and build sometime in the near future, so i don't really care too much about the carpets here. if i did, i think i'd try an xpen or limit his area even more. and i don't have 2 legged kids.

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