Possible seizures????

[MokiDad]

Hi all:

Just joined. We rescued Moki, our basenji, back in 2001. He is 10-11 now. Over the past several months, he has exhibited a very odd behavior. All of a sudden, he will start fidgeting, then he frantically licks his front legs, while what can only be called screaming. This lasts about 30-45 seconds and seems to come in groups. Are these seizures? We told the vet and he did a blood panel and said everything was fine. Thoughts are appreciated.

Thanks!

David

Moki's Dad

[Basenjimamma]

David, Iam sorry to hear about Moki, I do not know, but it sure does sound like seizures. How many of theses episodes does he have? Are they often, how does he behave afterwards? Is he sore/stiff?

I know its a lot of questions, but maybe it will help in figuring it out..and I would go have a second opinion done, from a different vet. You've seen the seizures so you know they are happening.

[MokiDad]

Hi Basenjimamma:

When they started several months ago, there was a period over a couple of weeks where he did it 10 times a day and then it stopped for a few months and then started again. Very odd. He seems to be completely fine in between episodes. We will probably take him to another vet. One thing that does seem to help is if we give him half a tranquilizer or a Benadryl. Any other comments are appreciated.

David

[thunderbird8588]

Hi David,
sorry to hear about Moki, wonder if its an alergy or cramp? It may be an idea to video him to show the vet.
Our elderly Basenji had seizures, these were full blown falling to the floor type. He had a liver problem and with treatment did ok.
He did have a few episodes of screaming when getting down from the setee, very occasional . Also he twitched if we opened a crisp packet near him. This was quite a time before the proper seizures started.
Please keep us posted

[MokiDad]

Thanks, Shelley. Agree it is a good idea to video an episode but never seem to have the videocam close by when it happens. Will keep trying though. He was quiet all night and so far so good this morning!

David

[thunderbird8588]

Hi David, hope Moki is doing all right. Just a thought my parents Papillon recently started to lick franticaly at his front paws. After bathing his paws with no sucess they took him to the vets. The vet found a minute cut that was actualy healing.

[CrazyBasenjiMom]

Humm, David, why don't you suggest to the next vet to have his thyroid checked. I would also suggest some lavendar oil for massage and helping him relax after an eposide, This will mentally calm him down too.
Keep in touch.

[Rita Jean]

We just happen to meet a lady yesterday who has had 6 basenjis and one of there's when it was older had seizurers. They found out it had fanconi.

Rita Jean

[tanza]

Best way to eliminate Fanconi is to strip test. If sugar in the urine, a Vet follow up for blood work is needed asap. If no sugar in the blood, then blood gases are needed.

Fanconi dogs typically die of something other than Fanconi (if treated early and on the protocol)… but it is the Fanconi that leads the other organs of the body to begin having problems.

[wizard]

I would talk to your vet again - and if no satisfaction then try another. Maybe some one on the forum who lives near you can suggest another.

[MokiDad]

I think we can rule out Fanconi and any kind of actual injury to the paw based symptoms and timing of episodes. We are trying to get one of the episodes recorded to show the vet next time we take him in. The seizures, if that is what they are, are relatively minor compared to what I have read about. He seems very out of it while it is happening but snaps back to normal very quickly, with the exception of following my partner around obsessively (more than usual). One friend suggested it might be caused by diet (preservatives and trace metals). Yesterday, we switched him to all natural dry and wet food so we will see if that helps – although preservatives and metals can build up in the body over time so it may take a while. Thanks again for all the posts. He has has a few episodes over the past few days but they have been relatively minor.

David (MokiDad)

[Basenjimamma]

David, That sounds like a good idea, to record him while having a seizure. The diet change is good as well, I am a firm believer in diet related illnesses, in humans or pets..feeding him a nmore natural diet is better for him regardless of whether it solves the seizure thing or not. Keep us updated..he is in our thoughts.

[Basenjimamma]

David, That sounds like a good idea, to record him while having a seizure. The diet change is good as well, I am a firm believer in diet related illnesses excisting, in humans or pets..feeding him a more natural diet is better for him regardless of whether it solves the seizure thing or not. Keep us updated..he is in our thoughts.

[Rita Jean]

Keep us all up to date on how your doing. My best to you both and hopes the food will take care of it. Good Luck

Rita Jean

[lvoss]

I only just realized where you live, has he been tested for Valley Fever?

Here are some of the symptoms of disseminated Valley Fever:
? lameness or swelling of limbs
? back or neck pain
? seizures and other manifestations of central nervous system swelling
? soft swellings under the skin that resemble abscesses
? swollen lymph nodes under the chin, in front of the shoulder blades, or behind
the stifles
? non-healing skin ulcerations or draining tracts that ooze fluid
? eye inflammation with pain or cloudiness

Here is a link to a full article on Valley Fever, http://www.vfce.arizona.edu/Content/Documents/Valley%20Fever%20in%20Dogs%20for%20PDF.pdf

I know there is at least one person on the forums that had a dog with disseminated Valley Fever.