Cosette does the throwing-up-bile thing on occasion, and in her case, it always seems tied to overexcitement. We've been working with her to get her used to cohabitation with our cat, and she's puked up bile in at least two instances when we picked the cat up or the cat ran across the floor, and we had to calm the dog down and take her attention away from chasing. Just another data point for you that may be helpful!
What works for allergies ?
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I've been wondering about this myself with my B (sorry to hijack the thread).
I was feeding my guy Wilderness and noticed he scratched at his ears/face quite often. Went with a 100% grain free food thinking that would fix it, no change. Vet told me it probably was not related to the food but it could be something seasonal.
I've never noticed any bumps on his skin anywhere. It's usually just the scratching at his ears (with both paws) and nose. Happens before and after meals so that's why I'm thinking it's not food related.
Any ways of testing for certain allergies with dogs?
They can test dogs for allergies same as they do people…. but you need to see a specialist....
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Hey Arlene, I have a question for you. I think I read that you fed your new litter this year Orijen Puppy. How did that work for you? And were you at all concerned about the protein level for a puppy. My 2 adults are on Orijen (for a year now and LOVE it). Locally the puppy food isn't available in the store but I can order it for my pup, but I wanted to hear from someone that has actually used it.
I didn't end up using it. I was going to change Sugar over, but her stress level prevented me so I just gave up the idea of trying any new food. The puppies were raised on Nutro chicken,oatmeal and rice for sensitive stomachs for puppies and did great on it.
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You can have skin tests done. The specialist who tested Sheba told us it probably was not food allergies. The testing was kind of expensive ($500+) but that included the allergy shots. It was very interesting the amount of allergens they tested her for. I think it was over 60 and it was a long process that started over 8 months ago. Now that spring has sprung here in the northwest I think her allergies are acting up again and we are going to try another route. ( by the way it was the rudest vet and office staff we had ever experienced)
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Just wanted to thank you all for the information . I will hopefully get a better idea after talking with the foster dad as to what types of things seem to set off the scratching , etc. Then once we get Ricky home I'll be on the look out for triggers .From what you are saying , food seems to be the biggest culprit . As I understand it the Wilderness recipe is grain free , but I'll check . If it's not I'll check for the other brands suggested here . Do you think fish oil supplements are a good idea ?
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a holistic vet can do a type of allergy testing - just call and ask. i think it would be easier and cheaper than the more "traditional" type of allergy testing (skin tests).
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Do any of you have any recommendations for supplements for skin conditions caused by allergies ? Some of these supplements claim to treat the immune system , thus "treating the cause not the symptom " . Most appear to be based on Omega 3 and Omega 6 plus various and sundry natural ingredients . I'd appreciate any input . We want to keep our new boy happy and healthy.
I know that the Omega 3 and Omega 6 oils will help clear up dry, flaky, itchy skin (They have done wonderfully for my boy). I'm not sure if it helps the underlying condition, but it will help reduce the symptom. I have both of my dogs on a skin and coat vitamin from petsmart (can't remember the brand off the top of my head), but it has been keeping them flake free and I don't see much itching. My dogs don't seem to have as severe allergies as yours does.
In humans the Omega oils are being used to help treat autoimmune disorders (my fiance has an autoimmune kidney disorder and is taking large doses of fishoil as one way to help combat it), not sure how it translates into helping dogs with allergies.
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I've found fish oil really works well for the dogs. I don't add extra oil to Zina's food since she is on fish based, but it seems to help with the dander on the other ones. And on the black and whites, you can really see how much dander there is and how much it is reduced once on the fish oil.
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If the condition is Allergic Dermatitis, which it sounds like it is, than the thepetcenter.com says treatment for it can be: 'topical medicated soothing baths, ointments and sprays…'
This site is invaluable for stuff like this: http://www.thepetcenter.com/gen/itch.html#Allergic
Hope that helps.
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Don't forget about any treats, bones, and/or biscuits you are feeding. My boy has allergies, probably food, and he rarely gets treats. He is also a chowhound and would gain weight from too many treats anyway. He gets fed either a fish, venison, bison, elk, etc and usually grain free or something with sweet potato. I do change food from time to time. When his allergies get bad, he will bite at his paws. I find it amazing what is in some treats and biscuits. Now it is easier to find treats that will not cause allergies but some of them are expensive.
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I did have a Westie in the past that had severe allergies to….storagemites, which is in every dogfood that has been stored for a few weeks or more, i.e every food known to man, so he was on the raw diet, did great, he was also severly allergic to fleas, or the saliva from the fleas and to mold/mildew, which living in houston Tx there is a lot of. Poor guy was miserable, until we did the raw diet and decided to keep him inside all the time, when the other dogs went out to play he had to stay in..and it is funny he wanted to go out and the other dogs wanted to come in...figures. The few foods out there that are supposedly good for allergies according to my vet is grainfree ones,
Dick Van Pattens sweet potatoe and duck, I believe was one of the ones he recommended. Try to keep the ingredients list as small as possible, cleaner food means less irritants. Just like our food, the less junk we eat the better we feel...
Good Luck, I know how hard it is with a dog that clearly is bothered by something and you don't know how to help it.
I do know that Petco and Petsmart here in Texas will take food back even though the bag has been opened, which is nice if you are having to try various/numerous different brands until you find what works.Basenjimamma
