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Breeder Fanconi Testing all Parents, and my Pup

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  • cuttiepie732C

    I looked up an old email, and she is doing all those test. Wow slipped past me…

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  • tanzaT

    @cuttiepie732:

    I honestly think that the only problem with my breeder is that she is 'new' I think I am being a responsible buyer by asking all these questions…

    Being new is not an excuse, sorry… and sorry if that sound harsh, but it is the reality. If you are going to breed then before you do so, you need to learn about the breed and what the health concerns are and what health testing should be done. Many of these tests are uniform for ALL breeds. IMO, breeders like this should not be supported...

    And she is NOT new to breeding, maybe to Basenjis, but she has at least two other breeds that she is breeding and selling.. and the only reason to do that is to make money....

    And Dmcarty is right, DNA HA testing should be done also, as she said, it is still out there and has popped up from BYB's and PM's breedings.

    Pat Fragassi

    Tanza Basenjis

    www.tanzabasenjis.net

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  • tanzaT

    @cuttiepie732:

    I looked up an old email, and she is doing all those test. Wow slipped past me…

    That is great if she really is…. and they should all be publically posted on www.offa.org

    Pat Fragassi

    Tanza Basenjis

    www.tanzabasenjis.net

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  • cuttiepie732C

    How do I see it on offa?

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  • lvossL

    You need to know the either the registration numbers of the sire and dam or their registered names. Just type one of those into the search feature. If the dog has an OFA record then it will come up so you can see all health testing done and the results. If the dog has no OFA record it will come back with a message that no results can be found.

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  • cuttiepie732C

    There are no results yet. The test were sent out about a week ago.

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  • lvossL

    I am happy to hear that she is doing the testing and I really hope that she has done at least all of the CHIC tests. I also hope that you will not take home a puppy until you have the results of those tests.

    I also agree with Pat that being "new" is no excuse. The information about basenji health is readily available on both the OFA website and the BCOA website. The CHIC tests are listed on OFA, http://www.caninehealthinfo.org/brdreqs.html?breed=BJ
    The health concerns in the breed along with how to test for them are all described in detail on the BCOA site, http://www.basenji.org

    A buyer should not have to tell a breeder what the health concerns in the breed are nor about the available tests that are available for those concerns. I buyer should know what to ask about a health testing and should seek a breeder who is knowledgeable enough and cares enough about their own dogs and the puppies they are choosing to produce to do the health testing to produce the best puppies possible.

    Can the breeder tell you what the average lifespan of the dogs in you puppy's pedigree is? It is not just about doing the health testing. It is also about knowing if there is longevity in the family lines, and knowing what the temperaments of the dogs in the pedigree is.

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  • cuttiepie732C

    I am seeing the pedigree tomorrow. Will let you know. Thanks.

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  • cuttiepie732C

    I got the sires pedigree. I don't really know what I'm looking at… lol

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  • lvossL

    A pedigree won't tell you much unless there is verifiable health data on OFA or you talk to someone who knows the dogs in the pedigree. There are some of on this list who are very familiar with many dogs and do a lot of pedigree research.

    You really need to discuss the pedigree of your pup both sire and dam with your pup's breeder. You need to ask if the dogs in the pedigree are alive or deceased. If deceased, at what age and what was the cause? The breeder should be able to answer these questions for a 4-5 generation pedigree.

    If you know the name of the dam, you can probably look up her pedigree at http://pedigrees.zandebasenjis.com but again you will need to talk with someone who knows the dogs in the pedigree for it to be useful.

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  • dmcartyD

    As I indicated before - if you want to give me his name off list - happy to see if I know anything.

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  • cuttiepie732C

    @dmcarty:

    As I indicated before - if you want to give me his name off list - happy to see if I know anything.

    I thought I sent you a pm? Maybe I didn't? lol.

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  • dmcartyD

    nope - no PM I think someone else offered as well.

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