• the other has quite the reputation amongst the techs.

    Thats become my dog.

    I finally after 7 years brought him in for a knock out dental exam.
    We brush his teeth, it was time to knock him out to do a real check up and have some plaque build up removed.

    He hates having his nails trimmed and goes psycho, so we take him to the vet to have it done. At first they were able to muzzle him, but he's smart, so the mere sight of a muzzle now and he starts barring his teeth. Then we had to trick him, but he learned these tricks (doesn't get fooled again), so now the vet made a nylon slip noose to try to get around his muzzle, like the crocodile hunter uses. Now he has learned to stick his head between his front legs they can't slip it around him. It took three people to hold him down to get it on him, with him snarling and snapping.

    The funny thing is he fought them to the very end. We also drugged him before he came with a double dose of tranquilizers and he still fought like a hellcat. He would not let them pick him up, they had to use his leash and hold his head against the crate bars to inject him.

    The funny part was once they sedated him with an injection, he refused to breath the gas when they put the mask on him, on the table. He was holding his breath still fighting!

    I'm surprised they will even treat him, but money is money, $495 for teeth cleaning, including one tooth had to be removed & blood work, shots.

    In his recovery crate after that he whined & howled for over two hours and drove them crazy.

    When my wife picked him up he was horse from whining. He was pretty traumatized after the whole experience- we all were.

    Our other dog is the opposite, she gets so scared she squirts/shoots poop out her bottom like tooth paste.

    They are both such a delight for our vet.


  • At our first local puppy training classes, the trainer pulled my wife over and told her that she knows what basenji's are like and any funny business and she would kick them out of class!

    Basenji's have a reputation let me tell you (at least in Chicago)

    Also when we looked into boarding our dogs some places said they would not take basenjis. We ended up getting a pet sitter, but not because of that. We just could not bare to leave him in one of those places (cement floors & constant barking dogs)


  • @Barklessdog:

    At our first local puppy training classes, the trainer pulled my wife over and told her that she knows what basenji's are like and any funny business and she would kick them out of class!

    Uhm, let me get this straight. You take your dog to a training class, because you're trying to be a responsible dog owner and the trainer says if your dog acts up, you're out of class? Seems like if she were a competent trainer, she would be able to train you to train your dog and you wouldn't have to be thrown out of class. :mad:


  • @agilebasenji:

    @Barklessdog:

    At our first local puppy training classes, the trainer pulled my wife over and told her that she knows what basenji's are like and any funny business and she would kick them out of class!

    Uhm, let me get this straight. You take your dog to a training class, because you're trying to be a responsible dog owner and the trainer says if your dog acts up, you're out of class? Seems like if she were a competent trainer, she would be able to train you to train your dog and you wouldn't have to be thrown out of class. :mad:

    Well, I can see if the trainer was concerned that the dog would present a problem for the other dogs, as in attacking, growling to the point where the other puppies would be reacting, etc. I know our trainer's policy for ANY dog of ANY breed is that if it is an aggressive dog, it cannot be in the basic obedience classes with other dogs. It makes sense to me. {and they mean beyond the minor snarking that Jazzy did toward EVERY puppy that wanted to be friend. :o They all learned quickly to not play with her. 😞 and she was okay with that . She was certainly not there to make friends. [she is SUCH a bitch:rolleyes: ] }

    But to assume that right off the bat that because of the breed there'd be problems is just poor business and does show a real lack of understanding. I am not sure she'd be my first pick.


  • What's even more ironic is she turned out to be the mother in law of a dad/friend of mine in our Indian Princess tribe!

    It turns out she has had some bad experiences with them. My wife went through the class fine. Our dog trained very well and can do all the commands when he chooses or if food is involved.

    He responds very well to positive training (like- sit -stay, heel & lots of tricks) He loves training, just don't trim his nails!


  • @JazzysMom:

    But to assume that right off the bat that because of the breed there'd be problems is just poor business and does show a real lack of understanding. I am not sure she'd be my first pick.

    I couldn't agree more…The more I know this breed - the more I think there is an unjust stereotype of one of the smartest, wisest and naturally intuitive of its environment. Therefore, if a trainer is uncomfortable with a "preconceived" notion of Basenji trainability - then, move on with a confident trainer - Your B will know the difference and make you proud. 🙂


  • We did training with our breeder as well. We only did the one class. My wife sees things like that as a challenge. There were no other incidents after that.


  • One of my clients told me that another trainer in town told her she wouldn't train with a cocker spaniel, because they were all nasty! Can you imagine? A. there are lots of nice cockers and B. nice customer relations!!!!


  • @Barklessdog:

    We did training with our breeder as well. We only did the one class. My wife sees things like that as a challenge. There were no other incidents after that.

    Great! But the thing is, no one would need to be in a training class if there were no training issues in the first place. I have completed (4) training classes with my dogs and in every class - the kinks were worked out of not only my dog(s), but others as well. I'm so thankful for trainers with patience as they've seen it all. 😉

    I had to edit that I've not only been to (4) training classes but completed all (4) classes {32} sessions in all.


  • I have had personal experience with trainers who have had a bad experience with the breed and then painted the whole breed with the same bad brush. I have also had puppy people experience the same thing. The reactions have ranged from a the person refusing to handle my dog or in any way interact with the dog to keeping a puppy completely isolated from the other puppies in a socialization class because the breed is "vicious".

    The trainers that I have had the most success with are ones that use a variety of approaches in their training and treat each dog as an individual. It helps if they understand the "hard wiring" of a sight hound or primitive dog.


  • We are lucky that ours are all very good at the vets, the techs usually all come in to pet them. Locally, basenjis used to have a bad reputation but for the last 10 years or so I have not heard any comments like "Oh, watch out, it's a basenji" that we used to hear. Maybe it's that people have learned about positive training, so most of the basenjis out there are better socialized and friendlier. My 3 are always getting praise from people for being so sweet and well behaved. (that is an optical illusion, by the way)
    Anne


  • I wish i would of got my b from a breeder i payd 1500 for from a petlandi said no than yes lol she needed to get pout of that hell hole


  • really depends are u getting this dog from a breeder? or a rescue? are u getting a basenji or maybe a basenji mix ? If ur getting him/ her from a rescue u might have alot less expense because chances are they might be fixed already and up to date on all shots i would say if ur getting a rescue ur cost is going to be cheaper i would say maybe 6 to 7 hundred with bowls leashes collars a shot or 2 food, toys, and other little things bed, crate, doggie coat i think it really depends on where u are getting the dog from that would really put the price up or down. BRAT has alot of basenji + basenji mixes that are in need of homes.


  • 900? 750?
    i got pilot as a 1 month old champion bloodline pure breed for only 450$


  • @Pilotbasenji:

    900? 750?
    i got pilot as a 1 month old champion bloodline pure breed for only 450$

    I don't remember you ever tellling us where you got your pup?


  • i forgot actually before i registered to this forum, but i know that it was a place in oklahoma. his name supposedly was "marymail" before i got him. that probably sounds like a load of bull to you doesnt it? im also fairly sure that they only breed basenjis.


  • @Pilotbasenji:

    i forgot actually before i registered to this forum, but i know that it was a place in oklahoma. his name supposedly was "marymail" before i got him. that probably sounds like a load of bull to you doesnt it? im also fairly sure that they only breed basenjis.

    lol that some name


  • And still your prices are cheap comparing to ours which is regulated by the basenji club and basenjis are still fairly cheap comparing to many other breeds.We charge 1637 USD(by today´s dollar rate same price for show and pet puppies as we don´t use that term).The breeder provides them their first shots,healthcheck,dewormingx3, microchip and registration in KC the rest is on the owner.Yes I can honestly say they cost me a fortune everymonth with all the xtras but some like spend it on clothes and some on their dog´s it´s a question of priorities;)


  • I thought about this vet thing does it have to be one vet? I use one for ordinary checkup´s ,bloodtests and shot´s he´s retired and therefor very cheap so he´s very popular with breeders.But for more acute things plus ppm,pra I use the animal hospital and I will chose a third one for the hip xray as this guy is specialized in orthpedics to get the best picture .So why stay with one if one isn´t too happy shop around and get the best price and treatment for different ailments.Also the doginsurance shop around to get the best deal.
    Same with food ask your breeder/breeders what they are using and if they are satisfied and also take a look at their dog´s if the coat is shiny and the dog looks healthy.With crates and leashes etc….shop on the internet to get the best price.Then again if you live in the rural areas it can be difficult but there you can talk to farmers/hunters the word usually get´s around who´s the best vet.


  • I paid $600 for Dallas & thought that was a good price considering some online I found for around $1000. I think a lot has to do with the area & Florida tends to be less expensive than many other states on the east coast. Although if we get a little girl in January 2009 we're looking at paying around $800 so a bit of a difference because of the different area I suppose [NC vs. FL].

    And thankfully, our vet's office loves Dallas. They always rave when he comes in & everyone wants to hold him! Haha. I've been lucky though because Dallas, thus far, seems to enjoy the vet's office. He's a HUGE people person anyway so any place where people fawn all over him & he's in heaven! Now my vet on the otherhand…well we heard how that one goes...It's a shame because I love the office but don't agree with the actual vet...

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