In addition to all of the above posts, there are definitely basenjis who will not be crated. I have one. Went through all the correct procedures trying to crate Shaye as a new puppy. We got her a wire crate, the right size, put a soft piece of our clothing in it, put it next to our bed at first so we could touch her through the bars - she screamed all the time she was in there, did her business wih her butt against the side so it would go outside, peed all over the place and sat in it, even though we were very slow and careful with it. The eventual result was she broke nearly all her baby teeth biting the crate, never calmed down in it, would not go in to eat, get treats or anything else. Her personality has never changed; she still backs off if she even sees crates other dogs are sleeping in. She is now nearly five, and she does not act like that when she needs to be kenneled at a daycare place, she seems to know it's different there, although if possible she will try to climb her way out at first. When she cannot, she will calm down and rest for the hour they put her in there during the day. Be patient, but if it just never works, so be it. Once Shaye got a little older and we got her a companion, she has been totally trustworthy while we are gone.
Oh, I forgot to crate you up?
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And while there are some that will always have a problem with crates…
90% of Basenjis do not... except for the ones that come from Puppy Mills >>or BYB...Please be careful not to generalize that way.We got Keoki from a very reputable breeder and he is a crate hater.
It's only been a week since he moved in, so I cling to hope for the future, but he also screams, yells, howls, cries, thrashes, thumps, tears, jumps...God knows what is going on in there, but it sounds a lot like murder.... when crated, esp. at night. It's like he is in a state of absolute and total panic.
He lived with his mom and littermates until two days shy of 12 weeks; so he wasn't taken too soon either!
Any other time of the day, he is happy and busy and a really wonderful addition to the family. He's a healthy pup, from a quality breeder. He just hates the crate.
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I did say that 90% are usually OK with Crate training… there is always the exception.... and many breeders (this is nothing against his breeder that I know very well) start crate training at 8 to 10 wks... for pups that they keep that long....
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And while crates are a small part of having a Basenji…. health testing is a big thing... in my book along with contracts, spay/neuter, what happens if a buyer can't keep the dog...etc..... and while it might look like I was making a general statement... 99% of the time it fits... again... not all the time...
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Haven't been to the forum for awhile, but just had to post this!!!
Having 5 kids, I knew at some point this would happen. Joey was not crated when the last kid left the house!!!
I pulled up in the driveway to see Joey peering through the front door window. Aghast, I bolted out of the car and ran into the house. First I checked to see if anyone was possibly home. No answer. Then I began my search around the house to see what was destroyed. I didn't think I would have to go far. I have had visions of the draperies pulled down and the sofa shredded, the mattresses torn, etc. First the living room…nothing. Then the kitchen...nothing, then the bedrooms, the bathrooms, the downstairs and on throughout the house...nothing! I AM STUNNED! NOTHING! It has been three days and I am still looking! There just has to be something!!! He has chewed many a thing in seconds right in front of us!
I am still hesitant to call him a GOOD BOY, but I may have to give him cudos! He greeted me at the door that day almost frantic. I wonder if he was anxious to be home alone and not in his crate. I would think that that anxiety, if present, would have led to disaster. (He crates without problem.)
I will not tempt fate to leave him uncrated purposefully, but I wonder if I can be a proud owner of a basenji that can be trusted alone in the house uncrated???!!!! -
(He crates without problem.)
I will not tempt fate to leave him uncrated purposefully, but I wonder if I can be a proud owner of a basenji that can be trusted alone in the house uncrated???!!!!You may be one of the lucky one's!;)
Good to see you back JQ.
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Thanks BB!. It sure is fun catching up!!! Love the video and tons of pics from your clan!
Do you think maybe that Joey planned to do nothing the first time and is just setting us up to trust him so he can ravage the place next time ;-)!!!!
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Thanks BB!. It sure is fun catching up!!! Love the video and tons of pics from your clan!
Do you think maybe that Joey planned to do nothing the first time and is just setting us up to trust him so he can ravage the place next time ;-)!!!!
JQSome of these little devils are pretty crafty!:D
We let a couple of ours out of the crates if we are going away on short jaunts….store ect. Yeah, you always wonder if your couch will be in tact when you get back.
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Corky gets a little full of himself if he's not crated for a few days. He's never in his crate on the weekends because he can be trusted 100% up to about 4 or 5 hours. We're seldom gone that long on the weekends. But, come Monday if we leave him out, he'll get into something. Or should I say somethings? This past Monday my husband assumed that we had stopped crating him (for some reason) and left him out. I came home to a chewed up quilt, bathroom garbage strewn down the steps and four brand new boxes of tissue destroyed. Needless to say Corky is back in his crate unless I know I'll be home at lunch to let him outside to do some laps in the yard.
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what a funny thread. I really was expecting a horror story from the first line and you all seem to have success overall!
I can say that my adult basenji has been kennel trained and I am basenji proofed, so he can be left out and be fine.
Not too sure how I would feel about Cairo my 7month old out with Caesar. What is the youngest b out there at home alone?
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Thank you JoeyQ for getting this thread back on topic
Not that puppy mill/responsible breeding isn't a good thread… :p and there might be one on this very forum.Nice to see so many Basenjis that go against (somewhat) the stereo-types.
I feel lucky because Jenny was a 7 month old shelter dog - stray - and really must have had a good upbringing because she has always been very handle-able (one of my friends picked her up and stacked her show dog style the first time he met her) and really only fussed (like the dickens!) in the crate the first night or two.I would remind those who are having difficulty crating: your emotions are a factor in how your dog reacts and adapts. The stress of hearing their cries, and worse, often puts an owner on edge enough to subtly (and often not so subtly to most dogs) encourage the behavior. Earplugs help.:o
