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  • I remember asking for medication for pain when Duke had his surgery. I was told pain meds mask pain that would aid him in becoming active. So the theory is some discomfort is a good thing to help with the healing. I wasn't too happy with it. I then asked if I could give him Children's Motrin. They didn't think it would be necessary, but I got an OK. Just follow the weight based dosage on the label. I never did give him anything, because he was way too active without the Motrin.

    I hope Joey will be feeling better tomorrow. I imagine the digit removal is the main cause of his pain and I do hope the vet will give him something. :(

  • @JoeyQ:

    Joey was neutered yesterday. He also had his dew claw removed and was microchipped. He is moving a bit slowly today. The vet did all the surgery with laser and "sutured" with "glue" not thread. He is not on any meds. I feel so badly for him as he wimpers now and then and sometimes lets out a little yelp! I will talk to the vet today, but have any of you given pain meds for this type of surgery?

    I had Max neutered at 6 months years ago (regular stitches), and they also removed his dew claws at that same time which required stitches also. When I went into the vet's office to pick him up, I thought he would hobble out in pain. He came charging out, jumping and running around like nothing had happened! He was not given any pain meds. The only thing that bothered him was wearing the e-collar afterwards. But he soon learned that it scared my older dog (who was the alpha)–and boy did he take advantage of that--running after her and shaking his head to get maximum advantage. He would even bump it up against the walls to startle her. But she got used to it after a couple of days, so Max's advantage was very temporary.

  • @Duke:

    I remember asking for medication for pain when Duke had his surgery. I was told pain meds mask pain that would aid him in becoming active. So the theory is some discomfort is a good thing to help with the healing.

    Yes, Jill, I was thinking the same thing.
    Joey is feeling much spunkier today though!

    BooBear…Joey did the same thing coming out from the vet's, but then crashed about 2 hours later. I imagine he had something on board for the pain and it wore off. He is doing much better today!

    I had to laugh when the vet tech said to keep him on leash outside for 10 days. I replied, he is always on his leash outside. I'm not sure that she knows about the B500 which Joey resumed this morning. I think what she should have said was keep him on leash in the house!:D

  • @JoeyQ:

    @Duke:

    BooBear…Joey did the same thing coming out from the vet's, but then crashed about 2 hours later. I imagine he had something on board for the pain and it wore off. He is doing much better today!:D

    Right–I'm sure they still had something on board when picked up. I also forgot to mention that Max stayed overnight back then. But he never did crash--just kept picking up speed :) Glad to hear that Joey is doing much better!

  • [I had to laugh when the vet tech said to keep him on leash outside for 10 days. I replied, he is always on his leash outside. I'm not sure that she knows about the B500 which Joey resumed this morning. I think what she should have said was keep him on leash in the house!
    /QUOTE]

    I laughed too when my vet told me the same thing…umm don't you mean INSIDE the house...yeah you must not know about B's LOL LOL :D

  • Hello to the most knowlegeable Basenji owners!
    We are getting ready to spay little Juma, and are wondering if females experience weight gain after? Our Norwegian Elkhound "porked" up a bit after her spay.
    Thanks for any advice.
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  • @Duke:

    Duke has his dew claws. I think they have to be removed at birth - too late for removal.

    Duke can have them removed still is just under a different process-more like surgery. Sometimes they can cause problems and sometimes not-depends on how they hang, do they get caught often, etc.

  • We are getting ready to spay little Juma, and are wondering if females experience weight gain after? Our Norwegian Elkhound "porked" up a bit after her spay.

    Topaz did gain some weight so we cut down on her food but she still has remained a little on the round side. It shouldn't be too bad. Good luck Juma on her surgery.

  • If you keep them active and feed them correctly, there should not be weigh gain just due to a spay….. As with all of them, as they get older and slow down you have to watch the calories....

  • Jazzy is set to be spayed next Tuesday morning. I'm getting as anxious, I swear as if it were ME having the surgery. I hope she does okay. My poor baby.

    And I hope that she lets them get anywhere near her after she wakes up, LOL. I imagine she'll be in a mood!

    Took me a while to figure out why I so stressed about this, my dogs have always been spayed. Then I realized that I've always gotten rescues that come pre-spayed! LOL I have never "gone through" this with my own baby!
    I had a male puppy once, but neutering doesn't seem so traumatic to me, and that was about 18 yrs ago, so the memory fades.

    I've had cats spayed before, but am not as "connected" with them, so it wasn't a big deal for me.

  • @tanza:

    If you keep them active and feed them correctly, there should not be weigh gain just due to a spay….. As with all of them, as they get older and slow down you have to watch the calories....

    We spayed our three female B's within weeks of one another last summer, two got fat and one didn't. The one that didn't is very active, the others not at all.
    My wife is picky about how much food they get so in our case it was definetly inactivity. Keep em active!

  • Jazzy is out of surgery and in recovery. I'm eager to get her back this afternoon.

    Because I'd expressed concerns about anesthesia, before she went in the hospital administrator – who is also one of the anesthetists and the one who'd be working w/Jazz -- came in and chatted w/me about the pre-op blood work, anesthesia, their monitoring equipment {heart, oxygen, blood pressure, etc } and that whole process. She gave me her credentials {actually pretty impressive}, etc.

    I feel really good about the surgery, but am still biting my nails until I get my baby back home. . . . just waiting, waiting, waiting for the call!

  • @nomrbddgs:

    Duke can have them removed still is just under a different process-more like surgery. Sometimes they can cause problems and sometimes not-depends on how they hang, do they get caught often, etc.

    Thanks nomrbddgs - It does bother me that he has his dew claws because they hurt when he uses them on my arm in certain play. When I tease him with a toy he wants - he can stop my arm in motion. His front legs act like vice grips squeezing tight and the dew claws dig in! So I don't like playing that game much. But it is amazing how they might be used to capture prey.

    Yes - I'm sure just about anything can be removed. I couldn't bear to put him in any agony and remove them. If the toe is injured, then yes. Daisy's dews were removed at birth - it's nice.

  • @JazzysMom:

    I feel really good about the surgery, but am still biting my nails until I get my baby back home. . . . just waiting, waiting, waiting for the call!

    I know how you feel. Let us know how she's doing. :)

  • Well, she's home anyway. She looks good, but miserable. LOL
    She is in her crate resting; Keoki is desperate to get to her. He's gonna be a pain in the butt. He seems puzzled – not sure if it's her behavior or the odd smells she must be carrying.

    Surgery went great. No stitches. I guess they suture on the inside and then glue the outside. Interesting.
    She can have water in about two hours; 1/4 her usual dinner in three hours. I doubt she'll eat it though, as her appetite is always very affected by her mood.
    I'm curious as to how the next few days go.

  • @JazzysMom:

    Well, she's home anyway. She looks good, but miserable. LOL
    She is in her crate resting; Keoki is desperate to get to her. He's gonna be a pain in the butt. He seems puzzled – not sure if it's her behavior or the odd smells she must be carrying.

    Surgery went great. No stitches. I guess they suture on the inside and then glue the outside. Interesting.
    She can have water in about two hours; 1/4 her usual dinner in three hours. I doubt she'll eat it though, as her appetite is always very affected by her mood.
    I'm curious as to how the next few days go.

    Best of luck, and I am so happy to hear she is home safe :) It is really stressful when it is *your baby going under the knife. I hope Keoki doesn't drive you all completely insane :)

  • It's good that she's home & resting. It's probably best to keep Keoki away from her for a few days. I know with Topaz she really didn't want C3 anywhere near her (I'm thinking b/c she was in pain) she only wanted to be with ME actually not even my husband, just ME :)

    And be very careful with her, their surgery is pretty extensive. I'm surprised they used the glue closure with her. Typically they only do that for the males since their incision is much smaller than females.

    Lots of prayers for a speedy recovery!

  • @jys1011:

    It's good that she's home & resting. It's probably best to keep Keoki away from her for a few days. I know with Topaz she really didn't want C3 anywhere near her (I'm thinking b/c she was in pain) she only wanted to be with ME actually not even my husband, just ME :)

    And be very careful with her, their surgery is pretty extensive. I'm surprised they used the glue closure with her. Typically they only do that for the males since their incision is much smaller than females.

    Lots of prayers for a speedy recovery!

    That is not true any more for spay, they typically glue now days, in fact, Lisa?.. didn't they glue Rally after the C-section? I think I remember that was the case… And while extensive, I was alwasy surprised just how fast they bounced back... by the next morning you would never even know mine were spayed.....

  • @tanza:

    That is not true any more for spay, they typically glue now days, in fact, Lisa?.. didn't they glue Rally after the C-section? I think I remember that was the case… And while extensive, I was alwasy surprised just how fast they bounced back... by the next morning you would never even know mine were spayed.....

    They still stitch every layer except the dermis. I am imagning that is because there is less likelihood of the dog bothering the area if they aren't stitches to obsess over.

    Querk never even licked his incision area….I was amazed, because I have had some bad experiences with stitches becoming infected from constant licking.

  • Jazzy is doing great this morning – still resting, but eating okay and seems perky enough when I take her out to potty; she's got a nice, sassy trot on leash, etc. She wanted to be out of her crate, so she's on Gypsy's big pillow and letting Keoki curl up next to her. {she gets snarky if he gets too enthusiastic, and I've been telling him to back off.}

    She's not bothering her incision area at all; I imagine that is because there are no stitches on the outside to annoy her.

    So far, so good.

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