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[Duke]

@srael:

My Friend Needs Help With Getting Rid Of Here Basenji And I Have No Idea On What To Do….where Is The Nearest Rescue To Vancouver Bc????? I Am Not Willing To Spca Him....he Is Sick And I Dont Think There Is Any Other Option For HIM But To Go Where Someone Knows The Breed...he Is Just A Baby!!!

Please contact one of these sites. They will likely be able to direct you to a place in Canada.

http://www.basenjiforums.com/showthread.php?t=31&highlight=brat

Good Luck - Bless you for trying to help this little fur-baby!

[srael]

I have tried the 1… and am trying the others but i only have till tomorrow!!!! he is sick and everyone is very afraid of him but he needs someone that is willing to try rather than just to give up

[Duke]

@srael:

I have tried the 1… and am trying the others but i only have till tomorrow!!!! he is sick and everyone is very afraid of him but he needs someone that is willing to try rather than just to give up

I am so sorry you have only until tomorrow. What illness does this puppy have? If you could elaborate, maybe someone here could be of further help to you.

[srael]

we were told most likely epilepsy! he has become very aggressive and turns for no reason

[Duke]

@srael:

we were told most likely epilepsy! he has become very aggressive and turns for no reason

Is your friend not willing or able to afford medicine? Are the puppy's seizures daily/continuous? I ask, because there are drugs that can control seizures and they need monitoring until dosage is adequately prescribed.

Please-Please stay with this site. There are members from Canada who may be able to direct you better there. I'll see if you can Private Message them.

[nomrbddgs]

Call Sue Wilcox BCOA Secretary. If you need to e-mail me privately and I will give you her phone. Or I believe you should find her online. If this is a canadian dog. Also how old is this pup? Usually epilepsy does not start until approx. 1 and half years old.

[nomrbddgs]

If you need me to call Sue for you let me know asap. We have a network across the country.

[Duke]

@nomrbddgs:

Call Sue Wilcox BCOA Secretary. If you need to e-mail me privately and I will give you her phone. Or I believe you should find her online. If this is a canadian dog. Also how old is this pup? Usually epilepsy does not start until approx. 1 and half years old.

SRAEL - I hope that you will Private Message Arlene. She can then offer you a phone number to contact. The Basenji Club of America (BCOA) network is vast. Someone will help you in BC. Please keep us posted . . .

[nomrbddgs]

Sorry Sue is BCOC Secretary. I tend to use the two interchangably.

[Blitz]

Hi, I am one of the owners of Achilles
He is very aggressive, and turns on everybody, and we believe he does do have epilepsy
We cannot afford the medication and all the vet bills due to the lack of income we currently have
Any information people can email me, or let me know here would be great, I would love to have him here, but I just can't take care of him, so I want him to go to a good home that has the knowledge on this kind of thing
Thanks in advance for everything.

[nomrbddgs]

I was saying in a private post that I have had at least one dog with ep that was aggressive also. Please, don't feel bad that you cannot do anything for this dog. This will require a certain expendable income. You are doing the best thing in looking for a good home. I also currently have a dog with seizures also. So I do understand as do many of us here at the forum. Some forms of ep form in a manner that much cannot be done. I had to put my aggressive ep dog down because no one could handle him-not even the vet had seen anything like it. How old is Achilles? What info can you give me. I can pass all info on to Sue Wilcox, but I have limited info so far. Thanks.

[Blitz]

Achilles is only 5 months old, so he still has a good life to live
We got him from a pet store for free because of the epilepsy
It was only recently he started attacking multiple people, before it was only me he tried to bite

[nomrbddgs]

Have the seizures started getting worse? Have you noticed him 'zoning out' more often? Does he come out of the seizures nasty? Is he more destructive than usual or when you first got him? How aggressive is he? Is he male or female aggressive, or both? Does he shake, pace? Can he calm down at all? There are a lot of questions, I know, but it is important.

[Blitz]

He zones out alot, and alot of the time he has a glazed over look
He doesn't really have seizures, but his jaw shutters quite frequently
Male aggressive for sure, he does do tricks for treats though, he sits stays, shakes paws and all that, but whenever you don't have a treat he just tries to eat you pretty much
He does calm down if he is left alone for quite awhile, but usually around anybody he just becomes super aggressive and snappy

[nomrbddgs]

I am severley concerned about this-I don't think this is a normal epilepsy. I'm thinking this may be a neurological disorder. There have been increasing cases of brain disorders as well. What did the vet say? How long are you able to keep him while I get in touch with Sue?

The zoning out is a seizure. It is a neurological interruption of the brain neurotransmitters. Sound like a lot of dead spots. If you're wondering how I know, not only do I have experience with dogs, but I also worked with Brain injuries in humans. A lot of this happens when the brain is dying. I don't mean to scare you at all, but this may be something else. Not all vets are up to date on neurological disorders. I'll try to talk with Sue tonight to see what she can do if you want me to call her.

[nomrbddgs]

I have read the other posts and the escalating aggression. I am almost positive this dog does not have epilepsy-but a neurological disorder. The clues are there. He knows what he is doing wrong-but he can't stop. The look in his eyes before he attacks. This has NOTHING to do with training. I feel so sorry for this dog I am crying for him. This dog will never have the kind of life he should-I am so sorry. You can try the anti seizure meds, the training, etc. But I believe this will never heal. The dead spots I am referring to are like holes in the brain. The vet said at first encephalitis-I believe that it may have started like that. Does he drool excessively when he zones out-or before he attacks? He is not doing this because he is aggressive-he cannot control it. I am so so so sorry. It is like a bunch of little strokes in a person. Each time the seizure happens the brain dies a little bit more and the surrounding tissue as well. Sounds like he is zoning out more and more all the time. If he has to focus on a trick sometimes that keeps them from seizing for awhile while the neurotransmitters are working overtime. This may be why he doesn't seize during tricks. Again, if you want me too I will talk to Sue.

By the way-why it seems to be more in the evening is the activity level of the dogs rise usually in the evening-he gets tired and this will cause the seizures to be more prevelant-they may seem to last longer the more tired he gets and seem more severe.

[lvoss]

The zoning out does sound like a neurological disorder and if you would probably need to see a neurological specialist to get a true idea what is going on.

Nuerological disorders are really crushing. My aunt's first beagle puppy was not properly vaccinated by the breeder and was diagnosed with distemper only a week after they brought it home. The distemper effected her neurological function and they had to put her to sleep after only a few weeks of having her.

[tanza]

Is this the puppy that was staying with your Mom till you moved? She was also having problems with him correct with escalation aggression?
At 5 months I would say this is a real problems be it aggression or neurological.. and as Lisa said would need to see a specialist asap…. I would also agree that it is most likely a neurological disorder... and while it doesn't sound very nice, the kindest thing you might be able to do for this pup is to have him put to sleep.

[nomrbddgs]

@tanza:

Is this the puppy that was staying with your Mom till you moved? She was also having problems with him correct with escalation aggression?
At 5 months I would say this is a real problems be it aggression or neurological.. and as Lisa said would need to see a specialist asap…. I would also agree that it is most likely a neurological disorder... and while it doesn't sound very nice, the kindest thing you might be able to do for this pup is to have him put to sleep.

Oh Thank you! I was trying to say it nicely. It is so hard when you have a puppy that you have to put down. But, it really is the best thing. As I've said you don't want to see the progression. You're seeing the start of it and that's bad enough.

[Quercus]

@tanza:

Is this the puppy that was staying with your Mom till you moved? She was also having problems with him correct with escalation aggression?
At 5 months I would say this is a real problems be it aggression or neurological.. and as Lisa said would need to see a specialist asap…. I would also agree that it is most likely a neurological disorder... and while it doesn't sound very nice, the kindest thing you might be able to do for this pup is to have him put to sleep.

Ditto. I feel that seizure related aggression is really very, very rare, and often over diagnosed. I think this pup is just seriously aggressive. The freeze and zoning out is probably a predatory freeze before attack. Not a seizure. Often dogs freeze and their eyes roll back right before they cross the threshold to attack…and it sounds to me like this is what this dog is doing.

Personally, I think it would be completely irresponsible to place this dog with anyone else...and if it were mine I would euthanize ASAP. There are way too many sweet, loving, sound dogs out there than need homes to try to (perhaps futiley) rehab this one.