@dagodingo - Note that if flying, most airlines have age limits and when I fly American (in cabin) age must be 10wks.
Brat Rescue and Transport; How they really treat rescues
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@westcoastflea1 Yes, libel is the act of telling untruths. Your whole first post is a contradictory and confused effort at slandering a charity that helps basenjis. Fairly obvious that when BRAT want to enforce reasonable safeguards, you find it unacceptable. Take a good look in the mirror before attacking them to satisfy your haughty anger that they won’t do what you demand.
I suspect that nothing I say will do any good, however I will take just the first part of your original post.
“I'm posting this because I am desperate, Does anyone here donate to Basenji Rescue and Transport? If so you need to know that the board is trying to force fosters of unadoptable dogs to adopt their foster knowing that said fosters cannot afford medical care for these dogs who need medical treatement.”
This is clearly an attempt at slander and false, How did they “try to force you”? With a gun? Threaten to sue you? What? It is fairly obvious that you want BRAT to do what you want them to do, not what is reasonable. If they don’t, then you will just slander and defame them until they do what you want. Because all the other foster dogs don’t count, just yours. So we should “know what is going on”. I personally am very reassured that BRAT are responsible enough to ensure that my contributions are spent correctly.
“Brat gives each foster a contract to sign stating that Brat will provide all assistance needed to care for the rescue medical food whatever. They have now decided that signed contract is null and void, they will no longer provide the care my foster needs.”
From what I can see, you have no vet, insist on a particular diet. Evidently, you know better than a vet. Hardly surprising that BRAT are concerned. Elderly dogs can cost significant amounts, one dog alone can run into the $10,000+ range. I know because I have two that passed. It seems that you have the dog, yet absolve yourself of all responsibility financially. For that you should be grateful to BRAT instead of slandering them.
“This is a dog that this rescue is now refusing to care for, due to imagined financial concerns, Brat has a 50,000 cushion in the bank yearly, they spend 5,000 in donations on a convention, Donor money is used for both the convention and air line tickets and hotel rooms of all BRAT board members.
But they cannot use that donor money to keep this healthy dog alive?”You fail to mention how much the convention brings in with donations. You have no right to lecture anyone on what they must do with their money, least of all a charity. I am glad that BRAT are responsible with their funds. Especially if they suspect someone is abusing them.
“I have received extremely insulting emails from a board member, I, who have been caring for this foster for 4 years on my own, making every decision, since the vets know nothing about his medications, am suddenly being told BRAT and some vet who has never even seen Declan will take over.”
Then by your own admission, you consider yourself above vets and are essentially the owner. Take responsibility yourself as you wish to do things your own way.
“BRAT said in this letter " The treating Veterinarian and independent Veterinarian also expresses concern over the current dosage of 5.25 mg/week of Cabergoline vs the 1 mg/week which is recommended (overdose situation)"
One study was done with this drug on dogs, it is the medication being used for cushings and parkinsons, in humans with great success, studies show the dose is highly individualized and symptoms of overdose are a stuffy nose hallucinations and fainting.There have been no reports of overdoses even at 20 mg a day.
How can a dog be given an overdose for 3 years, spend 2 1/2 years in remission have perfect blood panels yet is being overdosed?. BRAT goes on to say : "Declan is 20 pounds overweight, with a noted ravenous appetite, which indicates the current Darwin’s Natural diet is not appropriate; a low fat, high fiber, calorie restricted diet might be more appropriate (such as Royal Canin Satiety Support)"You state that the dog is not overweight, yet you have also said he was 37lbs a couple of months ago. A well muscled basenji should be no more than 25-30 lbs, an older dog less. So clearly BRAT are correct, a diet change is the responsible action.
“This information was taken from a 3 year old email i sent to Dr Bruyette in regards to starting Declan on Cabergoline, when his Cushings was not controlled. .
YET I'm ordered to feed my foster, who above all else needs top quality nutrition, and is the perfect weight, a satiety diet made from sawdust.”Clearly a lie and frankly sums up your post, there is no sawdust in that food. Now you defame and libel the dog food manufacturer. Your dog is still overweight, as such after four years he needs a diet change. Again, you wish to do things your way yet not take responsibility.
To sum up, it seems clear. BRAT are concerned about the dogs health, lack of veterinary care and require you to either take responsibility yourself if you insist on your way of doing things, or give the dog back so they can ensure he gets care. They are also ensuring that nobody abuses the funds which are donated. Which is why I continue to support them.
Frankly, your grasping attempt at defamation and your demands that they should pay whatever you desire whenever you desire, make you look like a person who should definitely not foster for them. If it were me in charge, I would take the dog back
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Do you have a picture you can share of Declan?
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@westcoastflea1 “would you like proof ? On Monday, July 1, 2019, 11:43:57 PM EDT, Linda Webb Hilliard basenji2love@yahoo.com wrote:**
Heather,
BRaT's care for Declan will continue, however, it must be held within limits pre-approved by the Board. Repeated test for the Cushings are not to be done. The new vet should communicate with BRaT regarding his care before any decisions are made.”Perfectly reasonable. The real problem here is you have the dog and want to override BRAT to do things your own way.
Like I said, nothing I say will change your mind in believing that you are right. Discussion as such is pointless.
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@debradownsouth “Dagodingo, I could spend time pointing out the person most closely walking the libel line, and it wasn't her.. but why bother? Your attack accomplished nothing.”
No doubt BRAT are not perfect, however I am not the one attacking a rescue that has saved many basenjis and advocated for the breed. As far as libel / defamation, the poster has made several provable lies, my whole family are lawyers and I know libel laws well.
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I just asked to see a picture. It is nice to put a face with the dog.
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@westcoastflea1 I was going to add something, but you deleted most everything, so... no point. I'm sure you wouldn't have liked what I was going to say anyway.
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@westcoastflea1 “Perfectly reasonable. The real problem here is you have the dog and want to override BRAT to do things your own way.
The sentence you seemed to have overlooked is this Repeated test for the Cushings are not to be done.Standard protocol for all cushings dog is to monitor (cushings every 3 months)**
You call a ban on monitoring perfectly reasonable. not surprised at all”Where did you get that from?
“Most veterinarians treat both adrenal- and pituitary-dependent Cushing's disease with medication. The only way to "cure" Cushing's disease is to remove the adrenal tumor if the disease is adrenal-dependent and the tumor hasn't spread, says Stohlman. However, because of the complexity and risks of the surgery, most cases are treated with medication. Surgical techniques to remove pituitary tumors in dogs are being studied, but surgery is not a widely available option.
Although Cushing's is typically a lifelong condition, the disease usually can be managed with medications. "It's important for a veterinarian to see the dog regularly and do blood tests," Stohlman says. "Monitoring blood tests and response to treatment help determine the right dose, which may need to be adjusted periodically."
Frequent blood tests and veterinary checkups are usually required in the first few months after starting treatment and then every few months after that, depending on the dog's response to treatment and tolerance to the medication.”
https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/treating-cushings-disease-dogs
Nowhere do I see every three months as the standard protocol. However, if your vet recommends it I am sure you could ask BRAT to cover it. As you have now deleted most of your posts, it’s once again pointless to discuss. However, the part you missed “The new vet should communicate with BRaT regarding his care before any decisions are made.” should be clear enough for anyone.
Again, your demands are unreasonable. BRAT is accountable for the money they spend on care. As you are obtaining care from them for your dog, you should be both compliant and diligent in following whatever guidelines they set. It really is that simple.
Being brutally honest here, as is my usual way. It seems you genuinely love the dog and are very attached to him. I know full well the intensity of looking after a sick basenji. However, I also know that it is important to maintain logic and reason. Running on feelings can cloud you into making a mistake that can potentially shorten his life. What you are doing is expecting others to give you a blank check without following their advice or obtaining their consent. That is unreasonable.
As others have advised, set up a go fund or such, if it works, then adopt the dog and you are in control of the decisions.
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@westcoastflea1 “Not my dog, I became a foster because I knew i did not have the financial means to adopt.”
Great, so you decided to get all the benefits of the dog with none of the costs. Yet that strikes you as perfectly ethical.
“I Take declan in, vet finds an ear infection and before he can make any decisions the vet has to contact Brat?”
Correct, as it should be. You are not the dog owner, nor paying for treatment. BRATs responsibility is to respond promptly.
“if someone tells me, based on false or dated information, what will happen to Declan, I'm supposed to be compliant?
Compliant?
gimme a break. I do not comply with any direction from anyone that may harm Declan. Perhaps you would”By your own admission, you are happy to take money for the care of the dog for eight years and now demand that BRAT do as you wish. Frankly, it’s disgusting and there should be a contract which allows BRAT to take the dog back. If what you say is true, then you are already in breach of that contract.
“what kind of responsible pet owner relies on something like Go fund me to care for a Cushings dog?”
What kind of responsible owner or foster, takes on the responsibility of a dog for eight years while expecting to take on no financial responsibility. Then lies and tries to throw dirt at the very charity who has paid their bills for eight years?
I can only imagine that you are a troll, they frequent here from time to time. Nobody else could honestly be so absurd. Hopefully Royal Canin will track you down and sue you so hard you bounce.
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@westcoastflea1 said in Brat Rescue and Transport; How they really treat rescues:
@dagodingo As I have deleted my posts I'm surprised to see you haven't deleted your own. I deleted mine, yet you have not deleted yours
Just a suggestion.Why did you delete your posts @westcoastflea1 ? I never delete mine, and see no reason to.
