Oakley ate something again..FML

[Chealsie508]

I agree that more contact/exposure would help him figure out his ambivalence..if Oakley didn't have the issues with other dogs it would be easier to find ways to exercise him. When I took him to the dog park he was so excited running with the big dogs, not to say issues couldn't have arisen but fortunately, when he was unmuzzled he started running and getting chased..it exhausted him..but doing that exhausts me bc of the stress of "do I take the muzzle off", when's it off " what's his body language saying", "do I think he's getting too stimulated?", "what dogs are around?"…he's not reliable yet. Like I said, he wants the interaction. Once the new routine is underway it'll get less stressful..not less expensive but less stress..lol
His new dog walking and activities are adding up!! I have to try the treadmill because the New England weather is torture..between heavy rain, extreme colds and lot of snow; it's impossible to get Oakley outside never mind for a walk..and this year the winter is expected to be harsh and bitter..ugh! I also found a training facility that rents a ring by the hour if I wanted oak to run indoors and play with him. I believe the rental is 15/hr so I have to call and get more info on that...

[ownedbyspencer]

Yes, it gets expensive. When Ava was a crazy, hyper puppy, I would take her to daycare 3-4 days/wk for my own sanity! Now, she goes once, maybe twice, a week.

While Ava will play with anyone, Spencer was pickier and preferred people. I found that he did much better at daycare than at the dog park. They pick up on our stress and uncertainties and at the park, we're always wondering about other dogs. At daycare, we're not there, so they're not picking up cues from us. I wonder how Oakley would do in a supervised play session with you not there? Could a trainer arrange this for you? Just a thought. He's a good dog, and you'll work it out.

[tanza]

Who are his sire and dam again? If you don't mind sharing…... And sad to say, but sometimes breeders are not totally up front with possible problems as you are seeing with Oakley.... and not because they don't want to share, but if their dogs are more or less kennel dogs than everyday house dogs, you would not see or maybe be aware of these issues... so while the answer might be, nope we don't see these problems... could be in a house/home situation it would come to light. Not saying that is the case here, but I do know that his breeders have a number of Basenjis... and I am fairly certain that they are not all house dogs, so sometimes behaviors can been missed. Kennel dogs are usually kenneled with one of the opposite sex, get limited house time... so without being able to evaluate them 24/7 easy enough to miss possible behaviors. And when in kennels, they are limited to items that could/can cause something like resourse guarding... again IMO

And that is an interesting point about a play date without you being there..... especially if he thinks you need to be the one to be guarded in a situation with more than just him...

[Chealsie508]

Sire:
Am/Can Ch. Candu's Rocket Man SC
Ch. Eldorado N Akuaba Never Say Never
Ch. Eldorado's Bejeweled
Sire: GCH Eldorado's
((((((( Akuaba One More Time)))))))
"Smoky" (cr)
Ch. Eldorado's Adonis, JC
Ch. Eldorado's Ooh La La
Ch. Eldorado's Hocus Pocus

Dam:

Chaanrose Parting Shot
Am. Can. Ch. Sternhimmels Generis Sui
Int. Fin. Dk. N. S. Ch. Sternhimmels Ad Astra
((((( Dam: Ch. Eldorado's Feel The Heat)))))
"Ashley" (cl)
Avongara Kasabu
Ch. Eldorado's Questionable Lady
Ch. Eldorado's Halcyon

[Chealsie508]

It's possible to have him evaluated, he has guarded me in the past, although that didn't make the list to the behaviorist bc it's almost never happened or nothing physical resulted from it..he is also very in tune to me so it's also possible he senses my stress/uncomfortability. It could very well be that off leash or without me around he would be fine

A pic and a video of my dog sitting: the only scuffles came over feeding time, and he got grumpy with her when she got near him while he was sleeping..but fairly normal and acceptable behaviors in my book..

http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z383/chealsie508/445DCD8B-864E-4F3E-B691-384E675A898F-2157-000001AF9346033A_zps1674490d.mp4

[ownedbyspencer]

Worth a try. Since he's so protective of you, you might be surprised at how quickly his behavior changes when you're not in the equation. He's grown into a lovely boy.

LOL– Ava doesn't think I'm a resource worth guarding.

[Chealsie508]

Haha..they sure know how to make us feel "bottom of the totem pole"

[Chealsie508]

Anyone who can help me read this results a little better? Oakley had blood drawn and sent to Dr Jean Dodds to make sure his thyroid wasn't interfering with behavior. The doctor reported she doesn't think so based on the results but I noticed some results were low and one high..
What would cause a dog to have low T3 levels?

[ownedbyspencer]

I'm not an expert, but Spencer had a low T3 with normal T4 results. The vet told me that you can see a low T3 or Free T3 when the dog is sick, on meds or recovering from surgery. A sick or recuperating dog decreases production of T3, lowering those values for a time (or maybe permanently, if the dog has a chronic illness, like Spencer's). IIRC, T3 is more an indicator of the dog's overall health, while T4 is more thyroid-specific. So maybe this is the aftereffects of Oakley's surgery and/or medications? I'm glad his thyroid is okay. That's one less thing he has to battle.

[sonnyboy]

Sonny does suffer from a thyroid problem which did effect his behavior. We started with a .9 T4 level at which time his behavior was cranky and snippy and rather grouchy…..Dr. Dodman then started him on Soloxine and the next test he was up to a 1.1 with no behavior change. we found Sonny's level needed to be at a 2.2 before we saw a change in behavior and he was no longer Oscar the grouch and snippy which for me was the biggest concern because I was afraid his behavior would escalate to a bite. He's been great this last year on his meds. We retested 6 months ago he did drop to a 1.7 but maintained good behavior. we just ran another 6 month check friday and if there is any change lower then the 1.7 we will adjust to get him back to "his normal" close to 2.0.

[Chealsie508]

I was hoping thyroid was partly the culprit because it would explain the noted increase in behaviors..but Dr. Jean Dodds said his thyroid was good overall and his t4 was within range..yet his T3's were low..and I just don't know what to think about that. As far as being sick, on meds or recovering from surgery…I wonder how long after it can be affected?? Oakleys surgery was mid may and the last meds he was on was over a month ago..but I know he's had a rough couple months since..so I wonder if that could be true for him? I hopefully will get a call from his behaviorist or doctor to help explain the results...perplexing?!

[Chealsie508]

So just heard back from Dr. Dodds who said there's nothing to worry about with a low T3 as long as the free T3 is fine but truthfully, I'm not comfortable with that answer because his free T3 is at the very bottom number on the range..to me that's not good?

[DebraDownSouth]

The issue is that Dodds looks at all dogs, but breeds vary. Ask your vet about a trial of low dose.

[tanza]

@DebraDownSouth:

The issue is that Dodds looks at all dogs, but breeds vary. Ask your vet about a trial of low dose.

Dodds is pretty much a sighthound specialtist… So I would tend to believe what she is saying... I would retest in 3 months and see if the Free T3 is still at the same level.