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  • KebasmomK

    Is it normal for two girls who come into season at the same time to act like they want to do each other in?

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  • tanzaT

    Do you mean "fighting"? Usually not, at least not mine, now they would "hump" each other… all the time!!!

    Pat Fragassi

    Tanza Basenjis

    www.tanzabasenjis.net

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  • KebasmomK

    Yes, I mean fighting. They seem especially edgy and tense. This is their second season together and they started beating each other up today when one started to go through the door before the other. We are keeping them separated. This kind of thing happened last year and eventually they got back together after their seasons ended. I was just wondering if this happens to others. It almost seems to be a contest for who is the boss.

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  • QuercusQ

    Mine always get crankier with each other right before their heat is about to start. And when we have had irreconcilable fights, it has been then.

    Andrea Walters

    Quercus Basenjis

    NW Ohio

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  • tanzaT

    I have been extremely lucky that my girls while grumpy didn't really change the pack pecking order in or out of season. The only exception was Fatia, the "want a be" that wanted Maggii to be gone, but it was no different in season or out… and that did result in placing Fatia with one of her pups, which was the best decision I ever made.....

    Pat Fragassi

    Tanza Basenjis

    www.tanzabasenjis.net

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  • KebasmomK

    It's really weird - both girls are getting along fine today!!

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  • MacPackM

    Good girl-friends, both with PMS???????

    Anne in Tampa

    Chipley, Missy & Lucky

    Topper, Nicky & Eddie in the clouds

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  • tanzaT

    @MacPack:

    Good girl-friends, both with PMS???????

    Amen to PMS…....................

    Pat Fragassi

    Tanza Basenjis

    www.tanzabasenjis.net

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  • KebasmomK

    When the event occurred one's season was beginning as the other's was winding down and don't even get me talking about the little boy who lives here. Oh the moaning and groaning…...at least he is still eating and maintaining weight. Last year he was so skinny!!

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  • P

    PMS is history to me thank goodness. But back to bitches - with the hormone changes I've always found bitches edgy up to their season. There could have been fights in the past had I not been aware of it. Nowadays because of my failing to react quite so quickly I give 'Hormonise' from Animal Health, website -
    www.animal-health.co.uk, daily for the 3 months leading up to the season. This was originally formulated for mares who as some of you will know can be particularly feisty at their 'season'.

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  • renaultf1R

    @Kebasmom:

    don't even get me talking about the little boy who lives here. Oh the moaning and groaning…...at least he is still eating and maintaining weight. Last year he was so skinny!!

    Oh, the moaning & groaning…LOL...I have videos on my phone of Brando sobbing & howling last year - definitely a noisy time at my house. And, he was a rail after Liyah's season as I was lucky if I could get part of one meal in him each day.

    Ruby was fine with Aaliyah last year (granted Ruby is spayed - and she actually acted very motherly to her which was kind of interesting) - but Liyah was quite "bitchy" at times and Liyah mostly acted depressed. Ruby wasn't so fine with Brando though because Brando would have taken "any port in a storm" including Ruby - and Ruby wasn't interested in his advances :D:D - so I just kept him separated from the girls.

    All in all it was easier than I had thought it was going to be - but then again I had 8 wks of training on running 2 packs when Brando broke his leg - 4 wks felt like nothing to me by that point.

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