Coat Color Inheritance in basenji

[misspodhradsky]

o ok. i got ya. is that a recognized color in the breed? I have never seen this before! She looks so cool! just like Lvoss said, wolf like. She really does look like it! thats awesome! How did u get her?

[misspodhradsky]

@Monika:

I must flee.
greet

ok have a nice night! thanks for sharing!

[misspodhradsky]

one last thing for anyone to answer. ok lets say there is a 16 punnet square.

The thing is br br br br down the left side and along the top is br Br bR BR

you will get Bbrr, bbRr, bbrr, and BbRr,

Bbrr is black. bbRr is red. bbrr is Tri and BbRr is black also.

ok so here is my question. BbRr is Black but if there is a R that is a dominant Red, so what does that mean? does that mean this dog is able to produce red puppies tho it is a black and white? or does this mean that the black was just more dominant in this color pattern and it over took the red making the dog look black in color. Just curious. thanks

[Monika]

BbRr itd do not relate to race Basenji

[Monika]

Saddle - http://www.basenji.org/african/B_Tena.htm (czaprakowy)
DD Kk a^sa^s and (a^sa)

[Monika]

Blue Fawn - http://www.basenji.org/african/Siri.htm
dd kk a^ya^y

[Tiva]

I think R is here only to make difference between "r" (tricolor) and "R" (red). Just way of writing.

This link could help you ;) http://www.vetgen.com/canine-coat-color.html

For basenjis is enough to know about K locus and A locus. Black and brindle are on K locus, red and tricolor are on A locus.

Black is "the most dominant", than brindle/trindle, red and at the end "the least dominant" is tricolor.

If your "R" is for red and "r" for tricolor, your BbRr should be the same as Kk ayat (I suppose :) ). This is tri-factored black dog who can produce black, red and tricolor pups.

[Monika]

You your entry does not apply to Basenji.is incorrect.

[lvoss]

@misspodhradsky:

ok so here is my question. BbRr is Black but if there is a R that is a dominant Red, so what does that mean? does that mean this dog is able to produce red puppies tho it is a black and white? or does this mean that the black was just more dominant in this color pattern and it over took the red making the dog look black in color. Just curious. thanks

It could produce black puppies, red puppies or tri puppies.

I will write more when I get home from work tonight.

[misspodhradsky]

@lvoss:

It could produce black puppies, red puppies or tri puppies.

I will write more when I get home from work tonight.

ok thank you lvoss. I know you will be writing more when you get home but i just want to ask. How does the B and R show up on a dog. Meaning what does the puppy look like when it has a gene of BbRr? (im not sure if that gene combo is right. just wondering that if it has both dom Blck and dom Red, what would the puppy be in color and what genes would it have?)

[misspodhradsky]

@Tiva:

I think R is here only to make difference between "r" (tricolor) and "R" (red). Just way of writing.

This link could help you ;) http://www.vetgen.com/canine-coat-color.html

For basenjis is enough to know about K locus and A locus. Black and brindle are on K locus, red and tricolor are on A locus.

Black is "the most dominant", than brindle/trindle, red and at the end "the least dominant" is tricolor.

If your "R" is for red and "r" for tricolor, your BbRr should be the same as Kk ayat (I suppose :) ). This is tri-factored black dog who can produce black, red and tricolor pups.

Yes i found a punnett square and it had Rr which is why i used it instead of Kk and Yy. :) Thanks for the clearing. anyways ok so Kkayat is KkYy (correct?) so the dog is a black dog that has the reces tri and since it has the dom Red gene and a rec tri that is how you got the Black reds and tris? ok i think i get that now. thank you!

[misspodhradsky]

ok i have a question. When you are doing a punnett square, lets say you have a dog that is DDKkYy and DDkkYy. Would you put one parent on top and one on the side and do the addition?

…...kk.....Yy
Kk..Kkkk…KkYy
Yy..kkYy...YYyy

How do you figure out what the puppy is? I dont understand how to take a parents code and put it into the punnett square. I know how to use the punnett square once its ready to be solved but i dont know how to determine where things go and how to evaluate the results (if there are more than 1 letter on each side)

[Monika]

Dd kk ayay , Dd kk ayat, Dd kk ayaw, Dd kk ayas, Dd kk aya
DD Kk ayay = black
Dd Kk ayay = black
dd Kk ayay = Blue (dog German)
dd Kbrk ayay = blue brindle
DD Kbrk ayay = brindle
Dd Kbrk ayay = brindle

DdKbrK ayat

[Monika]

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[Monika]

example

red x whait Dd kk ayay

black x white
Dd KbrK ayay

DD Kk ayay = black x white
Dd Kk ayay = black x white
dd Kk ayay = blue (german dog)
DD Kbrk ayay = brindle
Dd Kbrk ayay = brindle
dd Kbrk ayay = fawn brindle

two
red x white Dd kk ayat
black x white Dd KbrK ayat

possible combination
DD Kk ayat = black
Dd Kk ayat = black
dd Kk ayat = blue (german dog)
DD Kk atat =black (mask tricolor)
Dd Kk atat = black (mask tricolor)
dd Kk atat = blue tricolor
DD Kbrk ayay = brindle
Dd Kbrk ayat = brindle
DD Kbrk atat = trindle
Dd Kbrk ayat = brindle
dd Kbrk ayay = blue brindle
dd Kbrk ayat = blue brindle
dd Kbrk atat = blue trindle

[misspodhradsky]

@Monika:

example

red x whait Dd kk ayay

black x white
Dd Kbrk ayay

DD kk ayay = red x white
Dd kk ayay = red x white
dd kk ayay = blue fawn
DD Kbrk ayay = brindle
Dd Kbrk ayay = brindle
dd Kbrk ayay = fawn brindle

two
red x white Dd kk ayat
black x white Dd KbrK ayat

possible combination
DD Kk ayat = black
Dd Kk ayat = black
dd Kk ayat = blue (german dog)
DD Kk atat =black (mask tricolor)
Dd Kk atat = black (mask tricolor)
dd Kk atat = blue tricolor
DD Kbrk ayay = brindle
Dd Kbrk ayat = brindle
DD Kbrk atat = trindle
Dd Kbrk ayat = brindle
dd Kbrk ayay = blue brindle
dd Kbrk ayat = blue brindle
dd Kbrk atat = blue trindle

Im not sure what all this means. ayat are Yy. umm could you do it with Yy instead of ayay or atat? its just easier for me if you do. thanks

[Monika]

Big Y is a red
small y - tricolor,saddle,agouti and recesiv gen.Can not have four different meanings

[Tiva]

Misspodhradsky:

tri factored black dog - Kk ayat
tri factored red dog - kk ayat

Use punnett square for K locus and another punnett square for A locus:

….......K........k
k….....Kk.......kk
k........Kk.......kk

So, we have Kk (twice) and kk (twice)

A locus:

…............ay..........at
ay….......ayay.....ayat
at..........ayat......atat

We got ayay, ayat (twice), atat

Than put both, K and A locus, together (every K result with every A result):

Kk ayay - black
Kk ayat - tri factored black
Kk atat - tri factored black

kk ayay - red
kk ayat - tri factored red
kk atat - tricolor

Or, with your letters:
tri factored black dog - Kk Yy
tri factored red dog - kk Yy

….......K........k
k….....Kk.......kk
k........Kk.......kk

…............Y..........y
Y….......YY.........Yy
y..........Yy......yy

And than again, put all together:

Kk YY - black
Kk Yy - tri factored black
Kk yy - tri factored black

kk YY - red
kk Yy - tri factored red
kk yy - tricolor

[misspodhradsky]

@Monika:

Big Y is a red
small y - tricolor,saddle,agouti and recesiv gen.Can not have four different meanings

Yes i know that. But when you put ay, at, etc. it confuses me. I need the coding to be is Y,y, K, and k. I think thats it. but i cant follow when people add in different letter cuz i dont understand it :(

Which sucks cuz when you use letters i know it starts getting easier and easier lol