Looking for a picture of

[brianpoppee]

well sound like I probably don't want this pup then ha?
Gala All-American is a great, great, great, great grandpa
Akuaba's Tornado is great, great, great, great. great grandpa

Mom is fanconi clear, dad is between clear/carrier

[tanza]

@brianpoppee:

well sound like I probably don't want this pup then ha?
Gala All-American is a great, great, great, great grandpa
Akuaba's Tornado is great, great, great, great. great grandpa

Mom is fanconi clear, dad is between clear/carrier

Well at least for Fanconi… the pup would maybe be Clear or Carrier... so that is not such a bad thing depending on what you are looking for.... for a pet.. no chance of Fanconi for the pup... even is Carrier.. however.. if you are thinking show/breeding then the pup could only be bred to a Clear depending on the pups DNA Fanconi test....

Between Clear/Carrier has to be at this time considered a Carrier

Have other health testing been done? Hips, Elbows, Thyroid, Eye exams?....

[Quercus]

@brianpoppee:

well sound like I probably don't want this pup then ha?
Gala All-American is a great, great, great, great grandpa
Akuaba's Tornado is great, great, great, great. great grandpa

Mom is fanconi clear, dad is between clear/carrier

Not necessarily. You need to ask the breeder (is it Eric?) if the parents and recent relatives have had CERF eye exams done as adults. Lots of those older dogs are behind lots of present dogs that don't have any eye issues. But you need to know what the current status of the relatives' eye exams are.

[lvoss]

I hope that you verified for yourself using the OFA website the results for Fanconi and made sure that the sire and dam were tested for hip dysplasia and had CERF exams and that there are CERF exams on the grandparents since PRA is late onset.

As for pictures, here is a website with Gala pictures

http://www.chgala.com/index.html

There is a picture of Nate, Akuaba's Tornado in this picture pedigree

http://www.suntribe.se/stamtavlakull4eng.html

In searching for these dogs on the web I hit on this website, http://www.freewebs.com/alaskanbasenjis/litters.htm

Is this where you are considering getting your puppy from?

[lvoss]

If it is that breeder that you are considering then it is the dam Dune's Pleistocene Hera that is IND and the sire Moonlight N Amber's Crash Bandicoot that is Probably Clear. Neither parent has any other health testing. The sire is only just a year old.

[brianpoppee]

yes, those are them

[brianpoppee]

@Quercus:

Not necessarily. You need to ask the breeder (is it Eric?) if the parents and recent relatives have had CERF eye exams done as adults. Lots of those older dogs are behind lots of present dogs that don't have any eye issues. But you need to know what the current status of the relatives' eye exams are.

Eric does not health test

[tanza]

@brianpoppee:

Eric does not health test

If they are not health testing then you really want to go to a breeder that does…

[brianpoppee]

and you would recommend?

[brianpoppee]

I've had a hard time finding a champion bred
there is one breeder in Ok who will almost give me a pup
but they are not AKC and who knows whats behind them

[brianpoppee]

so you don't like the history behind this litter

[mauigirl]

I am sure Tanza is typing a post, give her a minute!

Are you looking for a puppy or would you also go with a young adult?

[brianpoppee]

do you know James Ormiston?
He's in NY

[brianpoppee]

I'd even be happy just helping someone show their dog.
but am considering and looking into getting my own.
any age (even a special)

[mauigirl]

Look here:

http://www.basenji.org/PUBLIC/BreederDirectory.htm

[brianpoppee]

I went through alot of these already but no one will even talk to me
not helpful at all

so I started searching elsewhere

[brianpoppee]

I would prefer to lease or buy outright.
almost ready to just quit my search - too confusing and too hard to find an honest friendly breeder with a great pedigree.
Thought I found one but I guess maybe not?
I guess I know why the price was fair and terms were too.

[mauigirl]

They are your best bet for a well socialized, healthy show quality basenji.
What did you tell them you're looking for?

[kiroja]

I can dig up a few pictures of Eric's dogs (the first few), I see him a lot. I don't think I have anything of Morgan though, or the Biff dog.

Eric's dogs are beautiful, but I can't say anything to his health testing practices.

[brianpoppee]

I want to join the show community, I think that is what spooked them all.
I could do a co-own but terms were unrealistic and not fair at all, about 1/2 of the breeders were way unfair.
If I don't make champion I have to pay them too etc etc