Pedigree

My breeder just sent me th pedigree of the father, and I was just wondering if you could help me out by looking at it? I don't know what to look for.

Will the breeder be forwarding the dam's pedigree also?

Yes. She is looking for it, making phone calls as we speak. On the pedigree is says foreign registration… So her parents weren't in the U.S.

Foreign? When you said the dam is ACA and CKC registered, did you mean CKC as in Canadian Kennel Club or Continental Kennel Club?

Oh, that isn't really a good place to have a dogs parents from.
Sorry to share that with you.

I'm still puzzled by the "foreign" part but perhaps when you get the actual pedigree it could shine some light on that.

My breeder just sent me th pedigree of the father, and I was just wondering if you could help me out by looking at it? I don't know what to look for.

I don't think anyone will be able to comment about specific dogs without seeing the actual pedigree. If you would like me to share my thoughts and comments about it, you could send it to me via email to yodeldogs at aol dot com.

@sharronhurlbut:

Oh, that isn't really a good place to have a dogs parents from.
Sorry to share that with you.

It's ok. This is the first time I have actually bought a puppy from a breeder. Last time I had a dog I got her at petland…

@cuttiepie732:

Continental Kennel Club.

That is not foreign… this is a "made up" registery... that many BYB and Puppy Millers use because they do not want to confirm to AKC regulations for DNA parent testing.....

@YodelDogs:

I'm still puzzled by the "foreign" part but perhaps when you get the actual pedigree it could shine some light on that.

I don't think anyone will be able to comment about specific dogs without seeing the actual pedigree. If you would like me to share my thoughts and comments about it, you could send it to me via email to yodeldogs at aol dot com.

I sent you an email thanks.

@cuttiepie732:

It's ok. This is the first time I have actually bought a puppy from a breeder. Last time I had a dog I got her at petland…

At the risk of sounding "nasty" and I know it will be taken that way… this is NOT a responsible breeder... this is a pure for profit breeder... sorry, but these are the facts...

@tanza:

That is not foreign… this is a "made up" registery... that many BYB and Puppy Millers use because they do not want to confirm to AKC regulations for DNA parent testing.....

She got the damn by chance I can copy the email of what she sent.

@cuttiepie732:

My breeder just sent me th pedigree of the father, and I was just wondering if you could help me out by looking at it? I don't know what to look for.

And you can go to http://www.pedigrees.zandebasenjis.com/search.html and see if you can find the sire of your pup in this database. This is the database that responsible breeders use

If you would like to share the information, then there are many of us here that can research

Research what? The sire is Texas Wallering Poker. Dam is Sandy Dandee.

This is the email
"As stated in the ad they are ACA and CKC registered. The way I got Dandee and Sandee was by chance. My daughter saw an ad in the paper 3 years ago about a kennel closing and every dog had to go that weekend. We went to look at a shih-tzu for my daughter. This place was horrible and filthy and no dog should ever have to live in those conditions. It smelled so bad you couldn't breathe and the dogs were in a barn with narrow little runs that obviously had never been cleaned. I was sickened and I saw three basenjis. Not familiar with the breed,(I have raised shelties for many years) I asked about them and the woman didn't have anything good at all to say about them. She had bought them in Louisiana and they were all about a year old. They seemed overly excited and friendly but I assume it was because they wanted out! Feeling sorry for them I immediately brought them home. After several vet visits and bathes and lots of sunlight (which they had never been in since puppies) and room to run around I fell in love with the breed and have had them ever since. They are different from my shelties but very unique in their own way. Dandee is the sweetest and most calm. Loves everyone and gets along very well with other dogs. Sandee can be a little dominating and I have to put her in her place at times. The male I brought home died from a snakebite 2 years ago. We live very secluded in the country and have 600 acres surrounding us so snakes are very common in Texas. He didn't make it and I bought Poker from a man in Oklahoma. All of my basenjis have no health problems. The puppies will have a full health checkup at about 7 weeks where my vet checks their eyes, hearing and patellas. He does a fecal exam and a neurological stimulus test. If any problems are present then I will let you know. Out of 3 years of Basenji litters i have only had one puppy that had a slipped disk. The rest have been very healthy and passed all health exams. You will get a copy of the health exam when you get your puppy. Feel free to ask any more questions."

Well neither the sire or dam are AKC registered. Did she give you the names of their sire and dams?

And I take great exception to "my Basenjis have no health problems"…. unless you do health testing, how do you know that? And I don't see any Eye Exams? And to take those Basenjis and then turn around and breed them... IMO is not being responsible... to take them, spay/neuter and find or give them good homes, that that would be responsible.

Maybe she is not being responsible… idk. I am getting the fanconi test, and if I have to I'll do the other test. I decided on him before I came onto this board, and I really like to talk to you guys. I just think she has a heart... but idk.

@cuttiepie732:

Maybe she is not being responsible… idk. I am getting the fanconi test, and if I have to I'll do the other test. I decided on him before I came onto this board, and I really like to talk to you guys. I just think she has a heart... but idk.

Like I have said before, it is everyones choice what/where they decide to get a puppy… we can only give you the voice of reason... and that there are better choices... I wish you good luck with your puppy and only hope that you will have him neutered and enjoy him as a family pet... without health problems.

Oh trust me my pup is not going to breed. My old chiarat Riley had puppies w a yorkie and surprisingly they were cute! But never again lol. He is going to neutered as soon as it is 'time' for him to be. My old sheltie died of kidney failure so I know what pain feels like when losing a dog. I just hope you guys will still talk to me, and respect me. That's all I am asking for.

ACA and Continental Kennel Club often referred to as CKC by puppymills in order to sound like the Canadian Kennel Club, a reputable foreign registry. When dogs are advertised as being registered with these registries it is a giant red flag that the person who is breeding does not want to follow AKC rules, including mandatory DNA parentage profiles for frequently used sires but still wants to make their puppies sounds valuable by saying they are "registered".

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