Well isn't she a sassy little thing? Thanks so much for the information. I had not heard of this one at all. I will Google it to get more info and find where to purchase!
Deb
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What's even more ironic is she turned out to be the mother in law of a dad/friend of mine in our Indian Princess tribe!
It turns out she has had some bad experiences with them. My wife went through the class fine. Our dog trained very well and can do all the commands when he chooses or if food is involved.
He responds very well to positive training (like- sit -stay, heel & lots of tricks) He loves training, just don't trim his nails!
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But to assume that right off the bat that because of the breed there'd be problems is just poor business and does show a real lack of understanding. I am not sure she'd be my first pick.
I couldn't agree more…The more I know this breed - the more I think there is an unjust stereotype of one of the smartest, wisest and naturally intuitive of its environment. Therefore, if a trainer is uncomfortable with a "preconceived" notion of Basenji trainability - then, move on with a confident trainer - Your B will know the difference and make you proud.
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We did training with our breeder as well. We only did the one class. My wife sees things like that as a challenge. There were no other incidents after that.
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One of my clients told me that another trainer in town told her she wouldn't train with a cocker spaniel, because they were all nasty! Can you imagine? A. there are lots of nice cockers and B. nice customer relations!!!!
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We did training with our breeder as well. We only did the one class. My wife sees things like that as a challenge. There were no other incidents after that.
Great! But the thing is, no one would need to be in a training class if there were no training issues in the first place. I have completed (4) training classes with my dogs and in every class - the kinks were worked out of not only my dog(s), but others as well. I'm so thankful for trainers with patience as they've seen it all.
I had to edit that I've not only been to (4) training classes but completed all (4) classes {32} sessions in all.
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I have had personal experience with trainers who have had a bad experience with the breed and then painted the whole breed with the same bad brush. I have also had puppy people experience the same thing. The reactions have ranged from a the person refusing to handle my dog or in any way interact with the dog to keeping a puppy completely isolated from the other puppies in a socialization class because the breed is "vicious".
The trainers that I have had the most success with are ones that use a variety of approaches in their training and treat each dog as an individual. It helps if they understand the "hard wiring" of a sight hound or primitive dog.
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We are lucky that ours are all very good at the vets, the techs usually all come in to pet them. Locally, basenjis used to have a bad reputation but for the last 10 years or so I have not heard any comments like "Oh, watch out, it's a basenji" that we used to hear. Maybe it's that people have learned about positive training, so most of the basenjis out there are better socialized and friendlier. My 3 are always getting praise from people for being so sweet and well behaved. (that is an optical illusion, by the way)
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I wish i would of got my b from a breeder i payd 1500 for from a petlandi said no than yes lol she needed to get pout of that hell hole
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really depends are u getting this dog from a breeder? or a rescue? are u getting a basenji or maybe a basenji mix ? If ur getting him/ her from a rescue u might have alot less expense because chances are they might be fixed already and up to date on all shots i would say if ur getting a rescue ur cost is going to be cheaper i would say maybe 6 to 7 hundred with bowls leashes collars a shot or 2 food, toys, and other little things bed, crate, doggie coat i think it really depends on where u are getting the dog from that would really put the price up or down. BRAT has alot of basenji + basenji mixes that are in need of homes.
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900? 750?
i got pilot as a 1 month old champion bloodline pure breed for only 450$ -
900? 750?
i got pilot as a 1 month old champion bloodline pure breed for only 450$I don't remember you ever tellling us where you got your pup?
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i forgot actually before i registered to this forum, but i know that it was a place in oklahoma. his name supposedly was "marymail" before i got him. that probably sounds like a load of bull to you doesnt it? im also fairly sure that they only breed basenjis.
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i forgot actually before i registered to this forum, but i know that it was a place in oklahoma. his name supposedly was "marymail" before i got him. that probably sounds like a load of bull to you doesnt it? im also fairly sure that they only breed basenjis.
lol that some name
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And still your prices are cheap comparing to ours which is regulated by the basenji club and basenjis are still fairly cheap comparing to many other breeds.We charge 1637 USD(by today´s dollar rate same price for show and pet puppies as we don´t use that term).The breeder provides them their first shots,healthcheck,dewormingx3, microchip and registration in KC the rest is on the owner.Yes I can honestly say they cost me a fortune everymonth with all the xtras but some like spend it on clothes and some on their dog´s it´s a question of priorities;)
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I thought about this vet thing does it have to be one vet? I use one for ordinary checkup´s ,bloodtests and shot´s he´s retired and therefor very cheap so he´s very popular with breeders.But for more acute things plus ppm,pra I use the animal hospital and I will chose a third one for the hip xray as this guy is specialized in orthpedics to get the best picture .So why stay with one if one isn´t too happy shop around and get the best price and treatment for different ailments.Also the doginsurance shop around to get the best deal.
Same with food ask your breeder/breeders what they are using and if they are satisfied and also take a look at their dog´s if the coat is shiny and the dog looks healthy.With crates and leashes etc….shop on the internet to get the best price.Then again if you live in the rural areas it can be difficult but there you can talk to farmers/hunters the word usually get´s around who´s the best vet. -
I paid $600 for Dallas & thought that was a good price considering some online I found for around $1000. I think a lot has to do with the area & Florida tends to be less expensive than many other states on the east coast. Although if we get a little girl in January 2009 we're looking at paying around $800 so a bit of a difference because of the different area I suppose [NC vs. FL].
And thankfully, our vet's office loves Dallas. They always rave when he comes in & everyone wants to hold him! Haha. I've been lucky though because Dallas, thus far, seems to enjoy the vet's office. He's a HUGE people person anyway so any place where people fawn all over him & he's in heaven! Now my vet on the otherhand…well we heard how that one goes...It's a shame because I love the office but don't agree with the actual vet...
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He's a HUGE people person anyway so any place where people fawn all over him & he's in heaven! Now my vet on the otherhand…well we heard how that one goes...It's a shame because I love the office but don't agree with the actual vet...
Our dogs started off like that, then around 2 years slowly decided they did not care about strangers and became aggressive with ill mannered or same sex dogs.
We would take our dogs to my daughter's school and all the kids would pet them. But then they growled at one kid who was kind of too pushy and combined with the biting at home decided not to do it anymore.
Now they have absolutely no interest in strange people outside the house.
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Yes, puppies in the US are cheap! I could have almost bought three for the price I payed!:eek:
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Yes, puppies in the US are cheap! I could have almost bought three for the price I payed!:eek:
That combined with the weak dollar vs the Euro & Pound and everything here is inexpensive for foreigners. I guess you guys make it up in shipping & duty costs?
We are now at Canada's level of value. We are going to London soon and basically the dollar is worth half of the pound. It's going to be very expensive.
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900? 750?
i got pilot as a 1 month old champion bloodline pure breed for only 450$1 month old? That is way too young for puppies to go to their new home, many states don't allow a puppy to be sold until they are 8 weeks old. Puppies need to be with their mother and siblings for at least 8 weeks to develop properly especially for things like bite inhibition and appropriate dog/dog interactions.
Also, what was meant by "champion bloodline" I see that on plenty of for profit breeders webpages and ads and usually if you look at the pedigrees the only champions are 3 generations back or more. Also a championship says nothing about the health of the dogs. Most responsible breeders do not use that term as a selling point, they simply list the titles of their dogs.
When a person starts to look for a puppy it is really important to know what you are paying for. Price will fluctuate depending on where in the country you are, just like vet prices fluctuate. Getting a "bargain" price is not always a bargain, if you think about how much it costs to responsibly raise a litter the breeder of a bargain priced puppy must have cut out something to be able to sell the pups at that price. You do need to watch out for breeders who are charging way above what is normal in the area too. You need to know what you are paying for.
This article was written several years ago so some of the prices and costs are out of date and the fanconi test was not out yet but it does give a good idea of what things a responsible breeder pays for.
