Bordatella and Canine Influenza Vaccines

[imbj]

Just wanted to get your thoughts on these vaccines. Do you get them together in one visit? Or does one need to be done first, wait a week, then do the other?

[elbrant]

I typically get everything doodle needs in one Vet visit, however, there are 2 things to note:

• Not every vaccine needs an annual booster. The Rabies vaccine (for instance) has a 3 year booster available, and
• Some of the members have mentioned testing "titers" to measure how much of vaccine remains in the blood. They use the results to decide if another booster is necessary.

Perhaps someone who understands "titers" could offer their knowledge and experience...

As far as getting these two particular shots:

• Bordatello is always a "yes, we want it". Doodle is up and around other dogs all the time when we go on walks and stop by the dog park.
• Canine Indluenze seems relatively new to the market. I don't usually get that, but I'm willing to be swayed with a reasonable sales pitch.

[imbj]

Thanks for the comment/feedback!!!

[Saving]

Maybe take a look at this book if you can before deciding:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Tip-Needle-Catherine-ODriscoll-ebook/dp/B07JJC7FJ6/

[elbrant]

@Saving Have you read this? Can you share any of the insights you found?

[Saving]

This is a divisive topic of course but as you've asked:
I know someone whose puppy died 2 days after the 2nd puppy vaccination. Another friend's dog has a swollen leg at the vaccination site of his booster which is not resolving, they're now proposing surgery.
Vaccination has become a religion and assumes that the divine body and natural immunity is inferior to manmade synthetic poisons. I say that because part of how they work is to include toxic substances such as Thimerosal (mercury) or aluminium as a form of transport/preservative. How on earth do all of the animals in the wild survive without our intervention?
The other question which has puzzled me regarding vaccines is dosage, how can a teacup poodle get the same dose as a great dane or a child the same as an adult?
I've not completed the book yet but essentially it talks about lack of informed consent as the dog vaccines can cause cancer, auto-immune diseases, inflammation, death amongst other things, these are generally not mentioned by the vet and the vets are trained (by big pharma) to disregard anything which occurs more than 14 days after the injection. When she started investigating why she lost her dog after it's jab she uncovered a lot of money-driven corruption in the industry. In a lot of cases the risk of the disease is much less than the risk of the side-effects.
The other area which she has mentioned in the book is that of dry food, it seems that a lot of dogs eating standard brands are suffering from malnutrition as it's not really food. She's not an expert rather someone who has done a great deal of research into the topic, it's amazing how little research the so-called experts actually do.

[elbrant]

@Saving said in Bordatella and Canine Influenza Vaccines:

divisive

I guess I'm a dreamer.... but I believe that adults can have discussions and opinions without resorting to name calling and rude remarks. Your input is valuable.

@Saving said in Bordatella and Canine Influenza Vaccines:

Another friend's dog has a swollen leg at the vaccination site of his booster which is not resolving

I"m sorry to hear about your friend's loss and understand the concern about the other friend's swollen leg. I had a similar experience, one of my dog's (not doodle) had a grossly swollen leg following a vet visit. The Vet told me it was cancer and I opted to let her go. Month's later I read online that it could have been the result of an allergic reaction. Please advise your friend to research possible answers before she makes a decision.

@Saving said in Bordatella and Canine Influenza Vaccines:

The other question which has puzzled me regarding vaccines is dosage

I agree, wholeheartedly. That's why I space doodle's heart worm meds out further than once a month. A pill for a 40# dog shouldn't be "ok" for a 20# dog. It doesn't make sense to me either.

@Saving said in Bordatella and Canine Influenza Vaccines:

dry food ... suffering from malnutrition

omgosh! That is so scary!! I doubt the big manufacturers would ever allow a real study to see the light of day, but I would love to see one done. Just the thought makes me want to keep feeding my girl human grade foods.

[Saving]

@elbrant said in Bordatella and Canine Influenza Vaccines:

@Saving said in Bordatella and Canine Influenza Vaccines:

divisive

I guess I'm a dreamer.... but I believe that adults can have discussions and opinions without resorting to name calling and rude remarks. Your input is valuable.

Thanks, because it's become a religion as soon as you speak against it people get so offended. The last 3 years has shown that quite clearly

@Saving said in Bordatella and Canine Influenza Vaccines:

Another friend's dog has a swollen leg at the vaccination site of his booster which is not resolving

I"m sorry to hear about your friend's loss and understand the concern about the other friend's swollen leg. I had a similar experience, one of my dog's (not doodle) had a grossly swollen leg following a vet visit. The Vet told me it was cancer and I opted to let her go. Month's later I read online that it could have been the result of an allergic reaction. Please advise your friend to research possible answers before she makes a decision.

Will do, a lot of the medication/vaccines cause inflammatory responses so it could just be that, it's still not nice for the dog to have that experience

@Saving said in Bordatella and Canine Influenza Vaccines:

dry food ... suffering from malnutrition

omgosh! That is so scary!! I doubt the big manufacturers would ever allow a real study to see the light of day, but I would love to see one done. Just the thought makes me want to keep feeding my girl human grade foods.

Yeah the same here, her research indicated that raw chicken wings were the optimal food and contain pretty much everything needed. I guess if you think of some of the processed crap they have in supermarkets trading as food for humans you can imagine how low the bar can go for pet food.