• CeeKay, if you are still coming to check this thread, may I encourage you to think about the Austrailain Cattle Dog, which someone else mentioned? The dog of my life was a Cattle Dog (NOT an Australian Sheep Dog). They have some wildness in them from dingo in the background and even look a tad like a basenji, especially the red variety, but they are truly loyal, obedient on their own just for you and not food, protective, not too large. I loved Rex and Rex loved me. He was friendly to people, but nothing could keep him from wanting to be with me at any time. He won first places in obedience trials, and I trained him without food treats or meanness, just basic kindness and firmness. He had a sense of humor, too, and loved to pick up old tires and carry them around for fun. Anyway, these little working herding dogs are very much like your list of needs for a dog friend. Hope you find the best fit soon.

    That is basicly the type of dog I've always had and wanted, but I also loved the idea of a basenji, and now I have a basenji. We are still getting to know each other, but I think the people here have basenjis down to a t. 🙂


  • I don't believe a Basenji is what you are looking for. My Basenji, Sahara, will bite, chase and guard my house from my cat that I have had for 18 yrs. She will try to put her mouth around my cat's neck, I have had to intervenue to keep my B from hurting her. I have underground fencing in my yard so my cat will mostly stay in my neighbors yard just beyond the line of the fence. The Basenji likes to be in charge, and they do things to please themselves, if they don't want to do something they won't. Sahara was easy to housebreak, fetch a ball, sit and stay, lay but she won't fetch or stay unless she really wants to. I can call her and she will just turn her head and look at me as if to say, "What'? Can't you see I am doing something!!!!! haha!!!!! You might want to think about a Golden Retriever, or lab.


  • If you are looking for something more to guard-try a beauceron, australian cattle dog (they have a tail the australian shepherd has no tail), or a Belgian Malinois (45-60 lbs usually),or even believe it or not a boxer. These are more loyal, have the guard background, are bred more for what you are looking for.

    Please don't take offense to what I said in my earlier post. I kind of get upset when people try to take a dog and do something they're not designed for.


  • You may be interested in a Visla or a Pharoah hound. They are sleek, strong, ancient and short haired. They bark and can be trained like any dog. Both are medium sized but have that doberman physique in a smaller dog.

    Vislas are very good if you want a dog that wont dash once you establish your rules. I dont know much about the Pharoah hound other than it is an ancient breed, nice size, and can bark.


  • No offense taken. Like I said, it's the same in the reptile world… People think snakes are such cool pets, then after they feed it, it's suddenly not so cool. 😉

    I was thinking I'd get a pit bull maybe. I'm one of those people who stand behind the breed. I know a few people who have pits, and they are the lovingest dogs I've ever seen! My friend's pit loves me, even though it's seen me a total of twice in its year or so that it has been alive. Also, the dog lives with a cat and a chihuahua, and they have no problems together. 🙂

    Pits are outstanding companions. 🙂

    I did some research on the Pharaoh Hound, and it is very similar in nature to the Basenji, without the wildness... Yet, most places I looked said that they should not be housed with cats, as they are sight/scent hounds and hunting dogs as well, same with the Basenji. Also, they "should not be trusted off the leash in an unconfined area," according to www.dogbreedinfo.com. 😕

    I haven't really looked into the Viszla much, but I think I will. 🙂

    Again, I thank you guys for telling me what's up. Like I said, I'd rather come here and gain some knowledge than go to a pet store and waste 300+ bucks on a dog that I'd end up giving away in the end. 😕

    • CK

    To bring the fun back into this post a bit… Who else agrees that cropped ears (especially super-cropped or fighting-crop) are lame? :p


  • I did it once many, many years ago to a Schnauzer-never, EVER again. Poor thing cried and cried. Have never done it to my boxer's and never will-I'm glad the rules are changing in favour of not doing it!

    Oh, and about the reptile thing-my daughter has had a spider (tarantuala-rose-haired mexican) for at least 10 years-she's 22 now and has always taken care of it. It's a thing for some people and for others it's not.


  • I prefer natural ears….


  • I had a Doberman years ago whose ears had not been cropped. She was ADORABLE….. the non-cropped ears sure took away from the serious guard dog look they usually have. LOL She looked {and was} harmless!


  • I agree, I love the look on a Dobie with natural ears…. and a Dane too!!!...


  • @nomrbddgs:

    Oh, and about the reptile thing-my daughter has had a spider (tarantuala-rose-haired mexican) for at least 10 years-she's 22 now and has always taken care of it. It's a thing for some people and for others it's not.

    Exactly my point. 🙂

    Same goes with dog breeds… You couldn't see Gen. George Patton having a Toy Poodle, could ya!? You couldn't see Paris Hilton with a Mastiff or a Rottie! 😉

    I'm just not a Basenji guy. Pits, on the other hand, I think are more what I'm looking for. Obedient, loving, great companions, and a whole lot of fun at dog sporting events like weight pulling and obedience courses... I might just have to get into this! 🙂

    Anyone have any information about dog sports organizations? 🙂

    • CK

  • Check out the www.akc.org website..it'll give you info on breeds & various events for different types of dogs.

    And if you're interested in a hound of sorts…checkout the www.asfa.org website!


  • CeeKay,
    with your interest in Pits, you may want to look at http://www.wpbtca.com/ and for a really cool and useful "sport" check out
    http://www.finographics.com/schutzhund/sport.html

    Also, just for another point of interest for someone interested in defending the breed, check out http://www.lawdogsusa.org/hemi.html

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