Brat Rescue and Transport; How they really treat rescues

[elbrant]

@westcoastflea1 said in Brat Rescue and Transport; How they really treat rescues:

Any vet who sees Declan and reads medical records will give Declan back. plain and simple, can't ignore facts and they are there.

Heather, didn't you say you got an email that none of the Veterinarians in your area will see Declan if he is still in your care?

• It is not up to the Veterinarian what happens to Declan after he is seen by them. They are only responsible for giving a thorough and honest health evaluation.
• You should not expect, or even hope, that Declan will come back to you.
• If you want to keep Declan, sign the release paperwork for BRAT and put this nightmare behind you.

[Dagodingo]

@elbrant It’s at the point where anyone who reads can figure out what’s actually going on and see the false claims, she is just digging a bigger and bigger hole for herself.

Take this little snippet. “if the vet wanted a certain dose she should have made it clear, but no dose on scripts, no dose given to pharmacist. I ordered what I needed, when I wanted it, and the quantities I wanted.
Medical records make it clear dose and drug was concerning her greatly.
Not great notes either. Nothing like my last vet

How do you comply with something that does not exist? if she wanted a certain dose it should have been on the bottle and the script, it was not.”

Curious, the vet and pharmacist must not know the law and violated the law.

Ҥ13794. Labeling of prescriptions
Every drug dispensed pursuant to prescription, whether for a legend drug or not, must carry on the label the following information: the prescription number; the date of filling; the patient's name; directions for use; the name and strength of the drug and the amount dispensed, including either the brand name of the drug”

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@dagodingo I would think so, but ... the junior Psychologist in me is just shocked by her behavior.

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@elbrant

She lies, given that fact. What if BRaT didn’t give her the option of the hold harmless. Given what she has already admitted, I doubt that BRaT would give her that option.

It would explain a lot.

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[Dagodingo]

@elbrant Yeah, her posts are becoming incomprehensible again. Reminds me a lot of this one...

https://www.reddit.com/r/ADHD/comments/7k4ixf/new_town_new_doctor_valley_of_the_dolls/

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@westcoastflea1

You might not like the responses, but none of us are your enemy. Why are you fighting with us? You came her to vent about things that were happening to you. Some of the things that you have said don't make sense, so we are asking questions. Or offering advice. We can't know everything that has happened. We don't know how this will all turn out. But none of us deserve the backlash.

You're angry. I get it. I don't care. If I have to be the big sister, or step-mom, or whoever it is you hate soooo much, then fine. I'm in your face. Pull it together! What you are doing does not help Declan. So knock it off!

Face what is happening. Because if you actually refuse to release that dog, or try to switch it for another dog, and a Sherriff/Police Officer is with Animal Control when it happens, you could end up in handcuffs.

Consider what that means. You will be escorted from your home. All of the dogs in your home could be taken into Animal Controls' custody. You might have to post bail to get out of jail before your court appearance. You will have to pay fines. You might lose your job. You might not be able to make rent and have trouble maintaining your housing. Your entire life could be turned upside down. And trust me, when that happens, it can take a long time to get back to where you are now.

Why are you willing to let that happen? Is this dog worth being a convict? Homeless? Unemployable?

You can avoid all of that. Just sign BRAT's release form. IMHO, it's the only reasonable option that you have. That has been my advice and it remains my advice. Everything else you are doing is just bringing a rainstorm down on you.

And honestly, the only one who needs to know why you are acting like this. Is Declan.

Explain it to Declan. Tell him how he isn't important enough for you to adopt him. Tell him how you would rather go to jail than sign a piece of paper. Tell him how these strangers are going to put a wire hoop around his neck so they can control him enough to get him into a container -- because you would rather fight than lift him up yourself. Tell him. Tell him he isn't worth it if you don't get paid to take care of him.

Go ahead, Heather, tell him. I don't want to hear it anymore.

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@westcoastflea1 said in Brat Rescue and Transport; How they really treat rescues:

Is a dog worth it? Declan is

I didn't say Declan wasn't worth it. You did. Every action you have taken says you only want Declan if he comes with a check. Go explain that to him.

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Hi Heather, it’s hard to keep up while reading the thread because it seems like a large majority of your posts are mainly and repeatedly cut and pasted from earlier posts? But if I recall correctly, you posted a few hours ago that you’ve secured funding from elsewhere and other people so that you won’t need money from BRAT anymore? Also, I think it was in your original post or at least in one of your early posts last week (which you’ve since deleted along with most of your earliest posts at the beginning of this thread?) you mentioned your total income was $10,000? I didn’t know or read until today that you own multiple basenjis. Anyways, if you’ve now secured funding from elsewhere for Declan’s food and expenses, why indeed aren’t you signing the form so that you own him and won’t need to deal with BRAT anymore? Perhaps I’m missing something, but seems like would be the easiest option?

[Dagodingo]

@westcoastflea1 really no point, you don’t listen.

https://www.k9cushings.com/forum/showthread.php?7835-Cushing-s-questions-from-a-new-member/page8

“westcoastflea1
Guest
Default Re: Cushing's questions from a new member
[QUOTE=Squirt's Mom;200534]Please listen to what Marianne, Lori and others have been trying to get thru to you. This are some of our Admins and moderators who hold those positions because they have years, YEARS, of experience and knowledge under their belts....and for no other reason period.
Your repeated posts telling members to forego the ACTH in favor of the UC:CR is very, very confusing to new members and carries the potential to cause harm to their babies. I BELIEVE YOU SERIOUSLY UNDERESTIMATE THE INTELLIGENCE OF THE MEMBERS ON THIS FORUM
'I hope, HOPE, your intent is good'
ARE YOU FOR REAL??
"but the fact that you continue to post this erroneous information after being repeatedly corrected is concerning to us all. I SEE SO ANY NEW INFORMATION OR EXPERIENCE THAT A MEMBER HAS THAT YOU DO NOT AGREE WITH IS CONSIDERED ERRONEOUS AND SO SHOULD BE CORRECTED? "you need to educate yourself further on this matter. You will find a wealth of solid information in our Helpful Resource Section to get you started. I HAVE SPENT MONTHS AND MONTHS HUNDREDS OF HOURS EXPLORING EVERY STUDY AND TRIAL, THE HPA AXIS AND ENDOCRINE SYSTEM AND STILL HAVE NOT STOPPED, THE INFO IN YOUR RESOURCE SECTION HAS NOTHING NEW TO ADD TO CONVERSATION SORRY. THE CURRENT MEDICATIONS ARE NOT WORKING FOR MANY MANY DOGS SO OWNERS NEED TO START THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX
IF YOU FEEL THAT MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WITH A CUSHINGS DOG AND THE THE NEW INFORMATION I BRING TO THE TABLE FOR OTHER MEMBERS TO EXPLORE AND RESEARCH IS A THREAT TO YOU THATS FINE
BUT ....
A. DONT QUESTION MY MOTIVES IN POSTING INFO ABOUT MEDS OR TRIALS OR MY OWN EXPERIENCE WITH A CUSHINGS DOG TO MOTIVATE MEMBERS TO STARTED RESEARCHING ON THEIR OWN

AND

B REALIZE THAT YOU ARE DOING AN ENORMOUS DISSERVICE TO MEMBERS WHO HAVE LISTENED TO YOU, READ YOUR HELPFUL RESOURCE GUIDE AND TRIED ALL CONVENTIONAL TREATMENTS AND NEED SOMETHING NEW BECAUSE NOTHING IS WORKING AND THEIR DOGS ARE SICK WHY ARE YOU SO THREATENED BY SOMEONE WHO INJECTS NEW THOUGHTS, EXPERIENCES AND IDEAS INTO THE MIX? THE WHOLE IDEA IS TO GET PEOPLE TO START RESEARCHING ON THEIR OWN, THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX DONT JUST GIVE UP WHEN THEIR VET SAYS THERE IS NOTHING MORE THEY CAN DO THEIR DOG”

[elbrant]

@westcoastflea1 said in Brat Rescue and Transport; How they really treat rescues:

"For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction." Sir Isaac Newton
** Yes there is and Brat has seen nothing yet**

Are you actually threatening BRAT? Is that what this is? In writing? On a public forum?

[elbrant]

@westcoastflea1 said in Brat Rescue and Transport; How they really treat rescues:

Brat has no proof of ownership. until they provide it they have no rights to any dog they claim is theirs.

Yes, they do. They have years of records proving that they have been providing medical care and food for Declan.

Heather, I urge you... chill with the hostility and take time to think about how you are reacting. Try to look at this objectively. I know it's hard, but one day... you will look back on this and regret your actions.