Looking for Basenji in Texas! (willing to drive)

[Tri B.]

Basenji Rescue and Transport
http://www.basenjirescue.org/dogs/TX/TX-Zola.asp

[DebraDownSouth]

@tri-b

::Urine tested for Fanconi: No
DNA test for Fanconi: No::
...DNA tested for Fanconi syndrome (dogs under 10)
....Our dogs get recommended dental work.

This dog has no Fanconi testing. I thought BRAT stopped that crap? No test over 10 (this one isn't 10 yet btw :Birth date: 11/01/2009)? We have a lot in florida from BRAT who are under 10 with Fanconi and over 10. BRAT REFUSED to test even the young adults 9 years ago (Yes, I have proof) and the dogs and their owners suffered for it. Now they are back to not testing again?

I have seen many people who got "urine tested" dogs from BRAT who assumed it meant CLEAR and only found when the dog developed symptoms that they were not really informed the urine test just says TODAY not spilling, not a darned thing to do if they are affected. Lack of making sure adopters know isn't much better than out and out lying... the result is the same.

The last is a joke. Yeah I have proof and proof they knew.

To the original poster, RUN from any dog or rescue or breeder who doesn't offer proof through DNA testing that the dog is either clear or a carrier (carriers don't develop Fanconi) ((for now, don't even accept "a clear sire or dam').

Check with responsible breeders who may have returned younger pups or who have adults done with breeding/showing who need their own forever family.

If they don't have anything now, get on waiting lists.

I also suggest you contact Camp Basenji (Pam Hamilton) to see what rescues she has that are available.

[tanza]

@debradownsouth - Just a quick note Debra, clear by parents is not accepted by OFA as clear of Fanconi at this time

[dogstar42]

I got my beautiful tri-color boy from Wanda Pooley of Adventureland Basenjis 11 years ago. She has since relocated to Texas from Illinois. If she is still active both she and her dogs are wonderful.

[tanza]

@dogstar42 - Wanda is not actively breeding now, but a great source to talk to about breeders and possible available Basenjis

[DebraDownSouth]

@tanza said in Looking for Basenji in Texas! (willing to drive):

@debradownsouth - Just a quick note Debra, clear by parents is not accepted by OFA as clear of Fanconi at this time

Well obviously unless both clear they could be carriers. Is there some dogs with clear parents coming out as carriers/affected, of just OFA being cautious. Thanks for the heads up as I had not heard it at all!

[tanza]

@debradownsouth - OFA has never accepted "clear by parents" for any DNA test

[DebraDownSouth]

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[DebraDownSouth]

@tanza said in Looking for Basenji in Texas! (willing to drive):

@debradownsouth - OFA has never accepted "clear by parents" for any DNA test

OFA says they do albeit only 1 generation:

https://www.ofa.org/clear-by-parentage
"CLEAR BY PARENTAGE POLICY
What does “clear by parentage” mean?

OFA records results of approximately 120 DNA tests, all of which are currently “direct mutation” tests, meaning that the test results are 100 percent accurate and not subject to interpretation. For direct mutation tests, OFA will clear by parentage for one generation.

That means that if both parents have been DNA tested clear for a disease, OFA will declare offspring clear by virtue of the fact that the parents tested clear. However, there are a few requirements to clear by parentage.

1.) As mentioned, both sire and dam must have tested clear, and those test results must be on record with OFA.

2.) The sire, dam and the offspring to be cleared must all have been DNA identity profiled, and DNA profiles must be on record at OFA.

Once those requirements are met, the owner of the offspring to be cleared will fill out the application for DNA Based Genetic Disease (available on the OFA website), writing “clear by parentage” in the blank line at the top of the form, and submit the form with the $15 OFA processing fee. That’s it—your dog is now cleared by parentage for that disease.""

[DebraDownSouth]

As a greater number of DNA-based disease tests become available, a policy regarding the clearing of offspring out of DNA tested parents has become necessary.

For direct mutation gene tests only, the OFA will issue clearances to untested offspring:

If the sire and dam have both been DNA tested “Clear,”
If the sire and dam’s DNA disease test results have been OFA registered, and
If all three (sire/dam/offspring) have been DNA identity profiled and parentage verified.
The DNA profile paperwork must be submitted along with a completed OFA DNA-based disease application. The resulting OFA certification will have a suffix of “CBP” (clear by parentage), indicating that the dog itself was not tested and that the clearance was based on the sire and dam’s test results, and known science at the time. Because of the possibility of new mutations or as of yet undiscovered gene mutations, only first generation offspring will be cleared.

For linkage or marker based tests where a margin of error including both false positives and negatives exists, the OFA will not issue any clearances to untested dogs.

DNA-based disease screening is an evolving area. This policy is subject to change by action of the OFA Board of Directors as technology and science advance.

https://www.ofa.org/about/policies/clear-by-parentage

[tanza]

@debradownsouth As I understand, this is not for DNA for Fanconi at this time... so as a breeder I would test regardless. It is not that I would dispute "clear" by parent... but as a breeder I would still test

[DebraDownSouth]

@tanza but then you said:

OFA has never accepted "clear by parents" for any DNA test<<

I have seen a few breeders saying pups clear by parents but I am too sleepy to look tonight.

[tanza]

@debradownsouth - Correct Debra, many breeders will say that and there is really nothing to stop them. However check out Sally's pedigree sight the only ones that are noted with the DNA results for Fanconi or PRA are the ones that were tested by OFA, not any of the ones noted as clear by parents. There is really nothing wrong with saying clear by parents but each breeder makes their own decision about this. For me, I would prefer to test.