@mshilo said in Help with getting started.:
After I have said it doesn't sound reasonable, you corrected/understood that you flew your dog in AIRCON LAGGUGE compartment
Btw, thanks! I realized that I didn't know what or if there was a different between "cargo" or "luggage"... guess what, there isn't. Same place.
You may also fly your pet as either checked baggage or cargo. The only difference between the two methods is how your pet is processed, Smith says, as all of them end up in the same pressurized, temperature-controlled storage space under the plane. Pets checked as baggage fly free and will be disgorged onto the luggage carousel at your destination. Cargo pets are usually charged by weight and sometimes also by the size of the animal carrier, and are dropped off and picked up at a special facility at your departing and arriving airports.<<
@debradownsouth hallo and Goodbye. I
Just for users that may read yours very wrong advice.
There is special Cargo transportation and there are air conditioned storage. Special Cargo is done by special agents and can’t be ordered directly from the airlines. As I understood It’s very expensive, so I couldn’t effort it and I only know the data i got from the agent. If you buy a dog the breeder will know and advice you.
In any case , what important is that flying a dog in the luggage can be traumatic. It is not like you leave him for long time at home.
He is in a dark place, with lot of noises and he does not know what’s going on. He doesn’t know it’s only for ten hours and can get stressed and traumatized. Not to mention that technical problems can happen, like lose or air conditioner, shifts of the crate, problem with water and more.
experts i talk with totally reject flying an animal in the luggage for more then five hours. Highly advices to split it to two with a day stop in between the legs.
People that need to fly - I ask you to contact experts which will advice you not to have long flights and how to deal with it, how to prepare yourself, your dog and the crate, water, food etc to the flight. Still, those are only tips for reducing the danger. The danger exists and dogs die on flights!
That’s a fact!
Long flights increase the danger significantly. It's does not a linear increase. A basenji can survive an unplanned change in climate for few hours, but may not survive nine hours. He will not 20% die; he may die, dead in 100%.
Don’t let him fly for more than four-five hours in the luggage!
Debra — GOODBYE.
You answer people long psychological reviews about their personality and about things you were not asked about.
More than that - you give FALSE and dangerous data.
STOP 
You wrote a book on your views, and the advice of people you agree with. No one asked you either. Your need to tell others what to write is boring. Your response, repeating same thing over and over, boring.
I didn't give my opinion, I quoted the airline. I could quote 20 airlines but i already know you reject what you don't agree with. You can't see how illogical your responses are. Just as you keep saying stop responding to you, but you can't stop. Get help.
Dogs get killed at large numbers in car wrecks. We still take them. Dogs get killed in dog parks, people still take them. Millions upon millions of dogs fly each year, many long international flights.. not the stats your hysteria portrays.
<rolling eyes> Your attention seeking is sad.
@debradownsouth and @mshilo - Please take your "private war" private.... both of you have hijacked this thread and I am sure that the person that started it has left never to return, so we all missed an opportunity to educate a possible new Basenji person
@debradownsouth Excuse me for getting in. Lady, you are wrong. First - there is what is defined as Hold Cargo and special Cargo.
What is more important that I much agree that long flights are a big risk for a dog, especially a Basenji.
I am not sure what is the fight between you and the other user, but to try to convince people to take their Basenji on a long flight is dangerous and wrong. That dogs die on events, other then flights don't mean that you need to take this unnecessary risk. Why?
What the user mentioned on long flights make total sense and I found others that support this opinion - "Williamson kicked off a list of other ways an animal could die in flight. “Some freeze to death when climate-control systems fail, while others die of heat prostration on the tarmac during lengthy delays, hurt themselves while escaping from carriers, or are injured or killed when heavy items fall during extreme turbulence,” he said. "
I do not see any reason to leave a Basenji in the luggage for more the 4 hours. too risky. He can die.
@tanza I agree. Just to make my point. The user did not ask to be educated but to get started getting a Basenji. And I was angry as people started educating him, or better say arguing that he should not bring a puppy now or whatever they said. It's not the first time I see it here and in other forums. In any case, i am out of here.
@mshilo said in Help with getting started.:
@tanza I agree. Just to make my point. The user did not ask to be educated but to get started getting a Basenji. And I was angry as people started educating him, or better say arguing that he should not bring a puppy now or whatever they said. It's not the first time I see it here and in other forums. In any case, i am out of here.
I disagree about "educating".... note the statement that "recently come to my attention".... This is indicating that these people are new to the breed and this is the perfect time to educate them on the breed, regardless if they go overseas for a pup or stay in the US..... I have been in the breed 30+ years and am always learning/being educated
@tanza Tanza,
A person asked how he can get a puppy. " after a lot of research we believe that the Basenji is the perfect dog for us to begin our new life together with....Are there ever instances of puppies being born in the late summer/early fall? Any help/guidance is much appreciated."
After I have seen that 5 days no-one answered but only created an internal discussion if the user should or should not get a puppy, and the user disappeared (check the history) I have given two options, and the user thanks me. Even then, I got attacked for those options, and users told the person not how to get a puppy, but because he is getting married, NOT to get a puppy, I thought it was rude and I expressed my feeling. The user disappeared again
Then one of your users adviced a very wrong advice that can not just damage but KILL a basenji and you still attacking me for trying to prevent people to follow this incredible damaging advice. No, I am not sorry I insisted to prevent users to risks their dog's life in long flights. IT IS A RISK, unnecessary risk to KILL A DOG,
Thank you, and I wish you good luck.
@dagodingo said in Help with getting started.:
// no ripping up everything //
no ripping up everything? @ 9 months? ROTFLMAO! Do they ever reach an age when the destruction stops?
@debi
How funny you posted precisely 22 hrs ago , just when you joined, to this thread only. Troll much?
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@tanza said in Help with getting started.:
@debradownsouth and @mshilo - Please take your "private war" private.... both of you have hijacked this thread and I am sure that the person that started it has left never to return, so we all missed an opportunity to educate a possible new Basenji person
Scroll up and read... this person attacks everyone, nonstop.
Sadly the person wanted easy and when Mshilo told him to join a board for buying dogs, off he went.
Do I need to ignore him? Not when he spouts abuse against me or gives bad info. But I'll try. Note that whether I do or don't, he attacks others because he NEEDS attention. So be it.
