Sudden Seizure in 2yr old male tri

[Nancy Berry]

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[Nancy Berry]

@Hana , It would be interesting to know if REM somehow, could trigger a seizure ~ it would be the same as flickering lights but without light. And he has them about the same time for each one he has. When I was a kid, we had this little terrier & at the first sound of thunder, he went into a seizure. If he was standing up, he would just freeze & fall over! His legs would stay stiff, his eyes were fixed & glazed & had the foam in the mouth. Scared the living snot out of me the first time I saw it!! I thought he'd just died!! The Vet gave us Valium to give him at the start of a storm & it would keep him from having a seizure. One time, it started to thunder & my Mom had me give him a piece of the Valium so I did & Skippy got up on the sofa & laid down. The storm turned away from us & was gone. I doped up our dog for no good reason! He went into a deep sleep & I sat next to him, crying on him as I couldn't wake him up ~ I thought I'd killed him!! My brother laughed at me, Mom told me to stop being silly & when my Dad came in, he told me Skippy would be okay & took me out to get a Coke. I never gave Skippy another pill of any kind! But I got to reading some things on Canine seizures & here's the 2 links if you want to read them. I hope the Vet gets Tiki's seizures stopped. It is terrible to see your pet going thru that. Keep us posted & Tiki's head rubbed! Nancy B.
#1. https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS539US539&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=Find+out+about+canine+epilepsy
#2. https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS539US539&ion=1&espv=2&i!!e=UTF-8#q=About+canine+seizures

[DebraDownSouth]

There are some great groups for seizuring dog owners. I haven't had one, so not sure which are good but I am sure some here can help.

[Hana]

@Nancy-Berry Thank you so much for sharing about sweet Skippy - and the links! :) Every bit of knowledge helps for sure. Have a great weekend! :)

[DebraDownSouth]

Nancy, on REM sleep... it triggers migraines, so wouldn't be surprised if seizures. However, most seizures during sleep for humans is in light sleep. (I worked for 2 yrs with the University of TN Neuropsychology and Brain Research Center with Dr. Joel Lubar. My primary work was with the epilepsy program.)
https://www.epilepsy.org.au/about-epilepsy/understanding-epilepsy/nocturnal-seizures-during-sleep

[Hana]

@DebraDownSouth This is very intriguing !! I started finding articles about melatonin helping those with "night time" seizures....... Your mention of light sleep not deep REM sleep makes sense. If melatonin helps relieve some night time seizures..... maybe it's because the subject is sleeping more soundly?

Most articles I found said that pure melatonin (check dosing charts of course by weight) 30 mins- 1 hour before 'bed time' can help a lot with dogs with seizures - and for those who panic with storms etc.

http://www.canine-epilepsy-guardian-angels.com/melatonin.htm
http://www.petremedycharts.com/Learning Center/Nutrition/Nutrition/home_cure_for_canine_seizures.html
http://www.vetblog.net/2013/01/dog-melatonin-uses-dose-rate.html
http://dog.rescueme.org/seizures

One article I found said to not give melatonin for dogs who have seizures. (at bottom)

http://ultimatehomelife.com/melatonin-for-dogs-dosages-safety-and-everything-you-should-know/

Does anyone on this forum have experience with giving their B's melatonin? :)

[Nancy Berry]

@DebraDownSouth Awesome place to work & what you were working with!

[Nancy Berry]

@Hana Sheesh! I never thought of giving a dog melatonin!!

[DebraDownSouth]

I know they have found lower dosages work better for people, but not find much solid research on dosing for dogs for each disorder so I'd start low. However, I am impressed with the amt of vets endorsing it and studies.

http://www.dogcancerblog.com/blog/more-melatonin-and-dog-cancer/
leading to this published on help with cancer survival: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10674014

Dr Dodman is a rock star: http://www.whole-dog-journal.com/issues/3_5/features/Supplements-For-Anxious-Dogs_5095-1.html

https://cvm.ncsu.edu/new-research-study-focuses-on-mysterious-eye-disease-in-dogs/

https://www.vetinfo.com/melatonin-supplements-for-dogs.html

http://vcs.vetmed.wsu.edu/research/clinical-studies/melatonin