• The remainder made it to Mattoon today. As Sharron said, two females are definitely prego; however, two more could possibly be.

    Out of the 24, only two of them were really shy, and only one of them nipped. None of them really attempted to bite, but one of the males we did not handle because he was acting so fearful.

    I'd bet that all of them have worms (tape, round, etc).

    Almost all of them are in fairly sorry shape with sores, skinny/boney, and poor nutritional health.

    There is one litter of 5, and they have a real sweet-heart of a mama. She didn't like us handling her pups, and she made it known by aggressively licking our hands when we did handle them. The females that are/might be pregnant appear to be in better health than the others.

    The stud is a big proud tri, and he seems friendly also.

    There were probably 4 tris under 1 year old. There is one very skinny younger brindle. There are a whole bunch of red/whites.

    None of the prego ones look very prego except for one. I do not know when they can be expected to start whelping.

    Overall, I really think that most of these dogs will take to new "pet" lives very well, and with much appreciation. I'd say at least 80% of them really appeared to crave some human attention.

    On a last note, there's a little 7mo old male tri, that would barroo at me every time I walked by his cage. He was play bowing, and almost even acting ticked off that he was being ignored. I can't help but wonder if somebody at the mill hadn't been taking care of him as a pet, because he definitely seems like he's had some extra lovin' that he's missing.

    That's it for now. When I have get my pics, I'll post them here.

    Vegas


  • My heart goes out to all of those poor pups. Many ((hugs)) to you and all who have gone above and beyond to help them.


  • Thanks for this post. I am sorry more are pg than reported…sigh.
    Breaks my heart they are is such rough shape, but its it wonderful they will be taken care of, fixed and rehomed to humans who will be their slaves.
    Hugs and love to everyone who has worked to make this so...


  • @sharronhurlbut:

    Thanks for this post. I am sorry more are pg than reported…sigh...

    Well, it's just an semi-educated guess based on their appearances. It may or may not prove to be correct. We got the vet there today though, so everybody will get weighed, and then we should be able to more easily monitor the suspect females.

    I wonder if the make doggie prego test kits?:o


  • @Vegas:

    Well, it's just an semi-educated guess based on their appearances. It may or may not prove to be correct. We got the vet there today though, so everybody will get weighed, and then we should be able to more easily monitor the suspect females.

    I wonder if the make doggie prego test kits?:o

    Breeders sure wish they did…... but the answer is no... they don't


  • How long will it take to tell if the dogs are pregnant?


  • @sharronhurlbut:

    How long will it take to tell if the dogs are pregnant?

    They can do ultrasound at 21 days…..


  • That will show how many pups and how far along they are yes?
    Not having done any breeding, this is all new to me.
    Thanks Pat for the info


  • @sharronhurlbut:

    That will show how many pups and how far along they are yes?
    Not having done any breeding, this is all new to me.
    Thanks Pat for the info

    Depending on how good the person is at doing ultrasound they can tell about how many… usually pretty close... exactly how far along... not really... unless a Vet that is really up on doing/reading ultrasounds..... also vets can palpate bitches... and at least know if they are in whelp...


  • The vet says that one is prego, and ready to go, and two others might be pregnant.

    I went back last night, and helped feed, and clean kennels. All of the dogs had a bath except for two. A brindle female was being extremely fearful, and one of the males was about the same. We'll see if they warm up today, and when/if they do, they will get their baths too.

    Those 4 seven-month old tris are soooo cute.


  • I know how busy you all are, but I would love to see some photos when you get them.
    Hugs and hugs for doing this.
    Are you keeping one?


  • Kudos to those involved for removing all these dogs from the endless breeding cycle of puppy mills. I am sending positive vibes that most will be adoptable.

    Will the females who are determined to be in very early stages of pregnancy be spayed immediately?


  • That I do not know.


  • @sharronhurlbut:

    I know how busy you all are, but I would love to see some photos when you get them.
    Hugs and hugs for doing this.
    Are you keeping one?

    Sharron, I'm having problems with my camera/computer, or I would already have them up!

    I'm working on it though…promise.;)


  • I know how busy you are.
    I can't tell you all how much I admire you all dropping your lives to help these dogs.
    YOU ALL ROCK!


  • Big THANKS to all the people involved in rescuing these pups - the thought of what might have happened is just too scary to contemplate.

    I wish I could help with fostering (but I'm leaving for Europe in a few weeks) especially since I could just picture them needing love and care.


  • I went to see the remaining SD dogs yesterday and help get two to Suzanne in Mi for fostering.
    The dogs broke my heart but also made me happy to know that their "good life" is getting ready to start.
    I took Zena and Zora from Mattoon back to Indiana and they are just sweethearts.
    I have never seen such a skinny girl as Zena, I just wanted to keep her and feed and love on her. They were both shy, scared, and a bit nervous- as can be expected.
    I think both will make wonderful turnarounds and just flourish. They did enjoy being loved on once they got used to it a bit, so there is tons of hope for these two girls.
    Thanks to Suzanne Sarlls for taking these sweet girls and Liz for her amazing organization abilities 🙂
    It was great to be part of getting these dogs to the good life.


  • Christy, do send photos when you can.
    How old are these 2 girls?
    Are they the pg ones?
    Sharron


  • Is Zena the brindle girl? She was one of the toughest, I believe. That poor girl was soooo scared.

    She would not be one of the prego chicas.


  • Toughest as it damaged, scared?
    Thanks so much for all you folks have done for these b's.

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