@katoman Hey, you should really try to relax some! You jump to the defensive all the time!! This is a forum......it's for everyone to voice their opinion!! You're not on trial here! It's really pretty interesting when a bunch of people start voicing their idea's & opinions! You're not going to get sue'd because you bred your dogs (at least not by any of us & doubtfully by the folks who bought the pups!). I bet there's a happy guy in there some where ~ let him out for awhile! Okay? It's easy to get along with most everyone here!!
New Africans at Basenji Park
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I've never seen a tri like this one. I want one just like it. Both Basenjis are just breathtaking. The story described by jys1011 is heartbreaking. I wonder why the tails aren't very curled….
Because "natural" basenjis have less curly tails
Western breeders have made that tail nice and curly over years of selective breeding. The breed standard calls for one curl up over the back…but lots of very "showy" basenjis have two or three curls. That is cute, but it doesn't make a Basenji more "correct". -
I wonder why the tails aren't very curled….
I think the curlier tail was a desirable trait for showing, but was useless in Africa. Here are a few pictures of tails that really show a good difference. Leo’s is super curly and Nexa’s just has a slight curl. Nexa is full african (she's on the right in the first picture and on the left in the second)
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OMG they are just adorable!!!!
Thank you for all the pictures, keep them coming
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That's a great example of curly & not so curly
tails!! My girl's tail is not so curly & my little boy looks like a cinnamon roll :eek: -
Because "natural" basenjis have less curly tails
Western breeders have made that tail nice and curly over years of selective breeding. The breed standard calls for one curl up over the back…but lots of very "showy" basenjis have two or three curls. That is cute, but it doesn't make a Basenji more "correct".Well, I guess that is mostly true about selective breeding. But look at some of the pictures of the early imports (like in the years of the american Basenji books) There were tight curls and loose curls… and some go along bloodlines. Conformation can play a big part in the tail as to were it is set.
The sire of Kristii, who had no new Af blood had a one loop tail....
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I've never seen a tri like this one. I want one just like it. Both Basenjis are just breathtaking. The story described by jys1011 is heartbreaking. I wonder why the tails aren't very curled….
Other then the tail, why do you think it looks different then other Tris? Just curious?
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Well, I guess that is mostly true about selective breeding. But look at some of the pictures of the early imports (like in the years of the american Basenji books) There were tight curls and loose curls… and some go along bloodlines. Conformation can play a big part in the tail as to were it is set.
The sire of Kristii, who had no new Af blood had a one loop tail....
Right, and one of Dr. Jo's Bs has a really curly tail (current af import). So, yes there are some that have very curly tails in the wild; otherwise we wouldn't have those genes to be be able to pull from.
But, in general, Afs have a looser tail curl…wouldn't you say?
I used to think that tail curl was directly related to length of tail. As in Bs with looong tails, had more curl to them, than short tails...but, uh....Ariel has a loooonnng tail, and not too curly
But she does wag it more than about ten domestic basenjis put together -
Yes, I do agree, the new Afs in general have a looser tail curl… and I would believe that was from "natural selective" breeding in the wild... at least if you are comparing the ones come from the same general area. And yes the pictures of Dr. Jo's Lukuru some of those have "loose and curly" tails...
Not sure about the tail length... Kristii is pretty short... and really, really curly... and she ways that little top knot all the time... ..
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Other then the tail, why do you think it looks different then other Tris? Just curious?
Because this tri looks seemingly rare. The black and tan appearance on his face - no white … I don't know, but he is striking to me. Of course I love the signature Basenji white socks and tail tip.
Hmm - I didn't know the super curly tail was developed thru breeding practices. Looking at this tri's tail, with the pictures shown, it doesn't look curled at all. Do you know - maybe I missed it, but are these two from the same litter?
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Because this tri looks seemingly rare. The black and tan appearance on his face - no white … I don't know, but he is striking to me. Of course I love the signature Basenji white socks and tail tip.
Hmm - I didn't know the super curly tail was developed thru breeding practices. Looking at this tri's tail, with the pictures shown, it doesn't look curled at all. Do you know - maybe I missed it, but are these two from the same litter?
I don't think they're from the same litter.
The Tri's tail does curl over at times, about like the red, just not as often. He is a lot shorter dog. -
Are basenjis found in many different parts of africa or just certain select areas??
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Because this tri looks seemingly rare. The black and tan appearance on his face - no white … I don't know, but he is striking to me. Of course I love the signature Basenji white socks and tail tip.
Hmm - I didn't know the super curly tail was developed thru breeding practices. Looking at this tri's tail, with the pictures shown, it doesn't look curled at all. Do you know - maybe I missed it, but are these two from the same litter?
I was thinking that cause you don't really see that many of them (Tri's with no white on the face). The lines that my Kobey comes from has produced many "non" white faced Tris, Black & Whites and Red…ggg...
Many things about todays modern purebred dogs have been done with selective breeding. That is what breeders do, they find what they like about a particular dog and that is what they try to preserve in breeding. So if breeder think/thought that the tighter tail was better looking then the loose one, it became more accepted because there were more of them. Same goes for temperament and health... and selective breeding.
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The tri is amazing in his markings I'm not sure about his build though?
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Are basenjis found in many different parts of africa or just certain select areas??
You will find a "big" difference of opinion on that
… that is why I have said that I have seen some of these dogs that were brought in and "claimed" to be Basenjis... and again, I would say NOT even close.... For me, I say only certain areas.... maybe at one time many different parts, but those have now had the influence of the outside world and different dogs.. which have became what I call a "village dog"... and not a true Basenji with Breed type. -
The tri is amazing in his markings I'm not sure about his build though?
I think he will have a lovely build.. might be a bit on the "slight" side… but still way to young to tell... and as an addition to the breeding stock what a great find provided all the health testing proves out.
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As they are both coming to sweden is Mia Lowbeer of the Yulara kennels keeping both of them? I went on her homepage and there she and her husband were posing with the littleone´s.
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As they are both coming to sweden is Mia Lowbeer of the Yulara kennels keeping both of them? I went on her homepage and there she and her husband were posing with the littleone´s.
Yes, she is as far as I know…. and she waited years and years to make this trip!
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Oh i´m so glad for her sake this was a dream come true and she´s been breeding them for decades.They will have so much fun at their private island in the finnish archipelago.I can´t wait to see them IRL hopefully they´ll be coming to the swedish basenji speciality
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I hope more folks will take these dogs into their breeding programs.
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Oh, wow! Welcome Angali and Asuma!! It's not often we get to meet B ambassadors :p … Keep us posted as they grow... They are so cute!!!
