Argh, people

[JazzysMom]

A woman on an email list for homeschoolers that I am on posted a message today, hoping to sell her puppy.
The puppy is an Aussie shep/border collie mix that she paid $200 for. She said she bought it and then realized that she couldn't handle puppies.
The puppy is 8 wks old. How much time do you think she gave it before giving up? ARGH. :mad:

And what other person is she going to find that will pay $200 for a mutt?
That seems like a lot to me. I have a bad feeling that this is another dog bound for the pound.

[tanza]

@JazzysMom:

A woman on an email list for homeschoolers that I am on posted a message today, hoping to sell her puppy.
The puppy is an Aussie shep/border collie mix that she paid $200 for. She said she bought it and then realized that she couldn't handle puppies.
The puppy is 8 wks old. How much time do you think she gave it before giving up? ARGH. :mad:

And what other person is she going to find that will pay $200 for a mutt?
That seems like a lot to me. I have a bad feeling that this is another dog bound for the pound.

Sigh…. I know exactly what you mean.. it is way too sad... and I would guess she gave that pup less then a week... AND... an Aussie/Border... yikes... can you just image the activity level of that pup? What was she thinking... She will have a hard time just giving away the pup. The best thing she could do is try and contact farms in the area that might take the pup, as it most likely would work sheep/cattle ...... Selling it for 200 is most likely not going to happen... and of course the person she bought it from will not take it back....

Very Sad....:(

[JazzysMom]

This is the next post from this gal….. sigh. I have a feeling this pup is at the pound. She had just posted the "for sale" sign this morning.

{Thanks for the interest in the puppy but she is no longer available.

Thanks,}

[dash]

I have a couple stories to add. My friend had a number for Great Dane pups. So I asked why she was interested in them and her reply was, she felt bad because the pups were mastiff/great dane and the mom had to have a c-section and the owner spent a fortune at the vets so they were only selling the pups for $200 each.

My response was, so this lady decided to breed these two dogs to create a mix breed dog and is now going to charge you for her stupidity?? These breeds are notorious for hip displasia. Are you prepared to deal with the vet costs if this comes up? Is she going to bail you out if this happens? It was her decision to breed them not yours. Don't make her bad choices become yours.

She was slightly upset but her husband agreed with me. I like both breeds but this is when I think it would be wise to require breeders to licence. Of course, stupid people would still breed.

My other story is a friend just bought a labradoodle/goldendoodle mix. Yes, I said bought! Very cute puppy but these "in-breeds" and the mixes that people are purposefully creating is insane! Ok just venting.

[senji]

I was with my sister in law the other day. She showed me a web site with all this mixed breds. They called them designer breeds. This woman makes her living off this pet shop where she acts as a go-between. She doesn't breed she just finds people to buy these mixed dogs and makes money by increasing the price so she and the breeders make a profit. I can't remember what the site was but I thought it was aweful.

[tanza]

@senji:

I was with my sister in law the other day. She showed me a web site with all this mixed breds. They called them designer breeds. This woman makes her living off this pet shop where she acts as a go-between. She doesn't breed she just finds people to buy these mixed dogs and makes money by increasing the price so she and the breeders make a profit. I can't remember what the site was but I thought it was aweful.

Lots of them these days, "so called designer" dogs… claiming that by breeding Poodles to Goldens or labs you then have a golden that doesn't shed??? HuH???
And I think it is quite amusing that there is a TV spot for Home Depot and flooring... the woman states "No glue, our Laberdoodle has allergies to everything"...

There was a Basenji BYB in North Carolina that had B's and Eskies. For a time she claimed she was going to start a new breed by crossing them... thank goodness she never did....

[sharronhurlbut]

There are always folks who will want to make $$$ on our companion animals.
These folks will find their justice in the next life.
I so hope we can educate the young folks to be smarter than some of the adults re animals and caring.

[Larka]

We charge $150 for puppies and $130 for adult dogs at the shelter I work at. But with that, the money is going back into the shelter to help the other dogs.

The womans problem was probably that she got a Herding breed puppy and children and couldn't handle it. People ALWAYS need to research a breed before they get it.

I have a "designer" dog. But my dog was "designed" for working… I have an Alaskan Husky. They mix Huskies or Malamutes with other dogs to make them better for working. (Like running and pulling sleds.)

Some of the dogs that get put together are just pointless. And some of these dogs have SERIOUS health issues with the mix. Heck, there's dog breeds out there that naturally have more issues than others, and now we're crossing them with stuff?
And then these people want everything catered to them. They think that if I can get stuff specifically for my Basenji, that they can get stuff for their Yorkipoo or whatever. I was a manager for Borders, and we run seasonal calendar places. We have just about every breed the AKC recognizes. And then these people come in with Maltipoos or something and get mad when we don't have a calendar for their dog. I have a Basenji, and I've had Akitas, it's hard to find stuff for those breeds (like mugs, plates, calendars...) and they ARE AKC registered.

I hope that little mutt didn't end up at a shelter. And if it did, I hope it's a no-kill one that will find it a good home with plenty of work to do.

[JazzysMom]

IF this pup was only 8 weeks old, I doubt she'd even given it time to find out if the kids could handle it. I mean, was there even time to try to teach it "no", let alone anything else?

Another woman on the list had mentioned that the puppy sounded like exactly what they wanted {active, energetic} for their kids/property and said
she'd talk to her dh that night. The puppy was "gone" by afternoon, and not to that woman.

I am not aware of any no-kill shelters locally – Sharron may have a better clue than I -- so my guess is, it wound up at the Humane Society, which does its best, but is not no-kill. I don't know what they charge for dogs; it used to be $80, but may be more now. That included any spay/neuter, shots, etc. that may be necessary.

[lvoss]

Most "no-kill" shelters are only no-kill because they choose to not accept dogs they feel they will not be able to place. Many of the local county animal shelters though they are "kill" shelters actually work very hard to try to keep any adoptable dogs from being euthanized. Puppies are very adoptable and don't usually stay very long at the shelter. There are always some exceptions but for the most part puppies are adopted pretty quickly.

Education is such a big part of combating the problem of unwanted pets. The shelter that I volunteer at is very eager to have help educating the community on responsible dog ownership. They are also exploring ways to make low cost programs available so everyone has access to dog training and appropriate vet care. I think these sorts of forward thinking programs are the way to help find homes for dogs and keep them in those homes.

[tanza]

@lvoss:

Most "no-kill" shelters are only no-kill because they choose to not accept dogs they feel they will not be able to place. Many of the local county animal shelters though they are "kill" shelters actually work very hard to try to keep any adoptable dogs from being euthanized. Puppies are very adoptable and don't usually stay very long at the shelter. There are always some exceptions but for the most part puppies are adopted pretty quickly.

Education is such a big part of combating the problem of unwanted pets. The shelter that I volunteer at is very eager to have help educating the community on responsible dog ownership. They are also exploring ways to make low cost programs available so everyone has access to dog training and appropriate vet care. I think these sorts of forward thinking programs are the way to help find homes for dogs and keep them in those homes.

I agree, however this doesn't address the real problem… people buying pups on a whim.... and then deciding that, gee... this is way to much trouble, or now I have no time, on and on and on.

[BasenjiDiva]

We had a peekapoo when we first married. (I'll just admit that was some time ago.) There were no such thing as "designer dogs" then but peekapoos and cockapoos did exist and were reasonably popular. A friend went to look at the litter and my husband fell in love with one aloof little puppy. He was a perfect dog for us at the time and we loved him dearly. He didn't shed like our basset, boxer, or lab shed but if we didn't keep him clipped, we'd find hair balls big enough to resemble small tumble weeds! And depending upon the BYB that you bought the dog from, the health issues were great. Our dog had to have a spinal fusion and had cardiac problems. A friend had two peekapoos. Both had lower jaws that stuck out further than their upper jaws. They bred their 2 ugly dogs and had a litter. At least two dogs in their litter had a seizure disorder. Fortunately, they didn't breed again.

Pat

[Basenji_Boy]

@tanza:

I agree, however this doesn't address the real problem… people buying pups on a whim.... and then deciding that, gee... this is way to much trouble, or now I have no time, on and on and on.

Yep, impulse buying of any dog just doesn't make much sense to me, but it happens all the time. Pet land…...............yuck.:mad: Most don't understand the commitment involved or just don't care.....sad really.:(

[Larka]

Random comments on the "kill shelter" vs. "no-kill shelter" thing-
I work for a no-kill shelter that rescues dogs from local kill shelters. We take ANY dog that is about to be euthanized. We have taken ones that are missing body parts (eyes, limbs, tails), we take ones that are really sick and we take ones that are really old. We have some that become "shelter sweethearts", dogs that can't get adopted and become permanent residents of the shelter or go to one of our foster homes.
And TONS of puppies get euthanized all the time.