Meet Simba
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wrote on 31 Jul 2019, 18:19 last edited by
Harmony Hounds is one of the 2 Breeders that I found in Georgia. So a 50/50 shot at the right answer? 😃
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replied to Wynette on 31 Jul 2019, 19:48 last edited by
@wynette - There are more than 2 breeders in GA. I was just guessing in looking at the picture. He looks like their breeding. I hope that the sire/dam had been DNA tested for Fanconi and that the owners checked that out to verify at www.ofa.org. And if not the owners get the DNA test from www.ofa.org, it is a cheek swab that owners do themselves. In my opinion this is not a good breeder, produces way to many puppies, prices are way, way to high and Basenjis have appeared in rescue group as the breeders do not take pups/adults back.
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wrote on 31 Jul 2019, 20:45 last edited by Zande
I repeat my earlier request. Tell us his parentage so at least we can tell you if they have been Fanconi tested. If not, you should get it done forthwith, as Tanza says. All we need is Mom and Dad.
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wrote on 31 Jul 2019, 21:37 last edited by
I have not been home this week. I will get you the names once I know the exact names. I have heard some troubling things about the breeder after I purchased the puppy in February. But he's a good puppy.
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wrote on 31 Jul 2019, 23:08 last edited by Wynette
Here's the information you requested.
Sire - Harmony's Curious George (AKC DNA #V879297)
Dam - Harmony's Karina
So he was DNA tested
I have his Pedigree.
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wrote on 1 Aug 2019, 07:46 last edited by
Thank you for that - Without his full name, I have added him to the database as Harmony 'Simba'. I can easily change it. And his date of birth would also help ! When I re-upload the database later today or tomorrow, his details will be there and you can trace the Basenjis behind him who have been tested.
Both his parents are AKC registered but unless they were DNA tested under aliases (not their registered names) they have NOT been tested for Fanconi or PRA.
Most recent in Simba's pedigree to have been tested is Grandsire Harmony's Ramses The Great who tested as 'carrier of Fanconi.' Of his 8 Great-grand parents - 5 were tested. One was a carrier and 4 were clear/normal.
I really do recommend that you check Simba for Fanconi. If he is a carrier, he won't develop the disease but it is always best to know for sure. [www.ofa.org](link url).
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wrote on 1 Aug 2019, 12:30 last edited by Wynette 8 Jan 2019, 12:33
Sorry his full name is Simba The Little Houdini. He was born November 23, 2018.
Thanks for the information. I was told that his Sire had been tested and had come back negative. I will be checking into it further.
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wrote on 1 Aug 2019, 13:04 last edited by Zande 8 Jan 2019, 13:13
I will check again, this time using his registration number - HP428721/05 - (just did. Nothing found - Dad not there).
Simba is AKC registered - HP571518/02. But no siblings :frowning_face:
I just added his pic to his pedigree.
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replied to Wynette on 1 Aug 2019, 14:19 last edited by
@wynette - Hello Wynette, note that the DNA you are seeing is not for health testing. It was done to prove parentage to the American Kennel Club as there must have been an issue with registrations? I would really just recommend that you spend the 65.00 and do the DNA Fanconi test yourself with OFA. It is just a cheek swab that you do yourself.
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wrote on 1 Aug 2019, 21:45 last edited by
Yes I will be checking into doing that next week. I really appreciate all the help and information from everyone.
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replied to Wynette on 2 Aug 2019, 13:16 last edited by
@wynette - Great, go to www.ofa.org and then to order OFA DNA Tests, scroll down to Fanconi Syndrome, you can order from there.
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wrote on 2 Aug 2019, 20:28 last edited by
We learn the hard way a lot of time. I'm glad you are here on the forum where long-time breeders and owners can help you. I moved from GA after almost 25 years (I'm now in Israel). Sadly the info on Harmony Hounds given here is correct. I'm glad you got this puppy because you want to be informed and will take care of him. I'll be curious to know if other littermates appear or if he's the only one that matched the stud so they couldn't be registered without the other male dogs being tested to determine parentage. (Yes, you can use more than one stud in a litter. https://www.akc.org/expert-advice/dog-breeding/stud-double/ )
If your pup is a carrier, it's just info with no chance of developing Fanconi. However, if he has it, then it's good to start watching diet now. The earlier you know, the better chances for a longer, healthier life.
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wrote on 3 Aug 2019, 12:48 last edited by
Simba was supposedly in a litter of 4. I have a picture of the litter registration form. I know that another of the puppies is supposed to be in Northern Alabama. But that's as much as I know.
I will look into getting the kit next week. I will post results once I know.
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