Skip to content

Potty training NIGHTMARE help

Basenji Training
  • I have a male that will be 1 in November. I got him at 10 weeks. He's not yet neutered, but plan to do so at 18 mos. He is NOT potty trained and I am doing EVERYTHING I know to do. This is my only basenji but I foster dogs so this is not a new concept for me. I take him out regularly. He holds it until he is back in the house. I'm at my wits end so I've gone back to basics. He is crated, or on leash at all times. He still will rarely poop outside. He generally only poops outside once we have gotten far enough away from the house that he gets very excited and is lifting his leg to pee and accidentally starts to poop. I cannot walk him a mile away every 2 hours, every day. In the house, he will wait until I an not looking and start to go, I interrupt him, bring him outside, 30 minutes go by, and nothing. Once back in the house he will finish pooping. I work from home, but cannot sit at home for a full 24 hours. He will go in his crate while I'm away. The only reason he no longer pees inside as often I is because of marking behaviors. I'm able to get him to empty his bladder outside because he constantly wants to mark outside. Although if the urge hits him in the house he will not hold it or try to alert me in any way. If it rains he will NOT go outside. If the grass is wet he will stand there miserable staring at me and refuse to go. I use enzyme cleaners inside to get rid of any smell. This dog has become my full time job and I am still making no progress. He will let me know when he wants to go on a walk, but he still won't poop outside 90% of the time. He poops 5+ times a day. It looks perfectly normal.. He's a good weight, 20lbs (slightly small, but he was the runt from the beginning) I also have a fully potty trained staffie, so he isn't learning by example either. I take them out together, and separately, it makes no difference. I am scrubbing carpets and picking up poop several times a day, every single day, and I'm at a loss.

  • What are you feeding him and how often? If he refuses to go when you know he needs to, try matching him. (match or suppository in the rectum). If you get the desired result, lots of praise.

  • Rachel Ray Nutrish, about a cup and a half, and in the morning. He tends to pick at it throughout the day rather than eat all at once.

  • Okay so here is a dog you need to put on a strict feeding schedule. Give him food, after 15 mins pick it up. Give it again at least 10 hours later. Same thing, 15 mins, pick up.. no food til breakfast. Not wild about rachel ray's but the issue is the free feeding. You cannot get a set bowel movement with free feed... or as set.

    If you are leashing him to you, try a belly band so that he pees, it's him getting wet. A loose dog will tear them off, but if you have control, he can't.

    I know it's not comforting, but the "I'd rather die or explode" than go in the rain/wet ground " is common. If you have to get an indoor or covered potty area, that is better than going everywhere.

  • What food would you suggest? (im not prepared for the adventure into raw just yet) He started on blue buffalo wilderness puppy, then after taking in adult fosters on different foods he would no longer eat it. I tried for a while to get him on taste of the wild, he just doesn't like it. Rachel Ray grain free bison recipe he seems to like, but none of the other recipes.

  • @nodles91 I really don't let my dogs choose their food. If it is good quality, I get it. Most dogs really won't starve, they will eat what you have. Honestly, I wouldn't work on a food change while dealing with the pottying issue, just cut him down to two set meals a day. He may go hungry a few meals but then he will learn to eat on schedule. That should help control when he has to potty. He shouldn't need to potty more than once or twice a day.

    Then, I would use the match stick method. outside, in your yard in a spot you want him to go. A gal told me instead, she uses wax birthday candles or small Shabbat ones, clear/white, instead. I hadn't thought of it, but that would work great. While there are a few "I don't care, my feet are wet"... biologically most cannot resist the urge to push it out and with it poop. When he poops, instant praise, then a short walk for reward.

    Putting a belly band usually is to stop marking, but it has the advantage of making peeing in the house a "self anointing" thing. While getting him to mark to empty his bladder (and hollow leg) works, again you'll be using your life up with it. Put a little flavoring in his water, like chicken stock, to get him to drink a LOT so he has to go. Go out often, sing his praise when he pees, not marking. Reward with a great (but small) treat.. like a small bite of actual meat.

    But also, get him tested for a UTI or any issues, even thyroid. Make sure you aren't working uphill against a medical problem. It doesn't sound medical, but it's always good to be sure.

  • Thank you! We'll work these tips into our routine. Fingers crossed!

  • Stop with the free feeding... this is a dog that needs to be on a schedule. And a cup and a half might be too much for a 20lb dog. Try reducing it to a cup. I have also found that feeding 2x's a dog is better than once a day. I have never let my dogs free feed. Once he is on a schedule you can mostly determine when he should have to go... and then you take him out and stay out till he goes. A trick you can use (many don't like this but I will put it out there) is what people that show use. Insert a match in his bum half way.... This will stimulate him to go, when he does praise/treat him. And until he gets the idea, you will need to keep him crated or on leash. You can search the forum for other conversations about using a match to stimulate. Search for match trick

Suggested Topics

  • 4 months old and difficult potty training

    Basenji Training
    28
    1 Votes
    28 Posts
    4k Views
    elbrantE
    @jkent said in 4 months old and difficult potty training: sometimes just looks at me when I give her the command to eat it, not understanding. She might be confused about the signals. Try eating a cracker while she's watching and then, setting her bowl down and telling her it's "okay" to eat. In the dog world, the boss (Alpha dog, or leader) eats first. Then the other dog(s) get to eat.
  • Basenji training to help cops

    Basenji Training
    5
    0 Votes
    5 Posts
    2k Views
    Shaye's MomS
    Great they are finally being recognized. I watched a show a few months back where they were training Basenjis at airports to sniff out drugs and other contraband in baggage compartments. The B's do well because they are small, can step over all the piles of baggage and of course, have such great noses it comes easy to them to be trained for this work!
  • Needs Help-Potty Training

    Basenji Training
    4
    0 Votes
    4 Posts
    2k Views
    NerdyDogOwnerN
    It's a natural puppy instinct to NOT pee/poo outside their "cove". This is to prevent predators in finding them with their smells all round the area. Sometimes it takes longer for some to go outside. A neighbor of mine got a puppy, and they too where having a hard time with pee/poo inside. I told them to just take it easy, and don't punish. Spend a good time outside, and award when he/she does go outside. It took until their dog was 8 months until he started going regularly outside.
  • New Basenji and Potty Training

    Basenji Training
    16
    0 Votes
    16 Posts
    6k Views
    S
    Yes, my girl was well socialized. It's not that my voice is so startling to her. It's more that she doesn't like to be scolded and will find a way in the not too distant future to repay me with her opinion. Since I learned a while ago to not do this, I haven't suffered her wrath in some time but when I did it could be anything from finding she had peed or pooped just out of my sight to finding something I value that had just been totally shredded. I found that I could scold her reasonably for what she had done but then I needed to immediately reinforce my love for her so that she knew she didn't need to rebel against me. This has worked well for me. Shouting at her would always reap me a grim reward in the end.
  • Potty Training issues

    Basenji Training
    17
    0 Votes
    17 Posts
    4k Views
    NemoN
    @NerdyDogOwner: On the topic of pee, I have a question/issue. I have noticed Gizmo seems to quite often have a drop hanging on his penis a lot of the time. Also it's sometimes white, almost as if it's sperm. Now the first thing I thought of was your typical puberty signs, wetdreams etc. since his blanket also has quite a few drops stains on it. Is this normal? Or should I be worried/aware about something else? Possibly just sloughed skin cells.
  • Please Help! Crate training 5yo

    Basenji Training
    12
    0 Votes
    12 Posts
    3k Views
    ChristyRutherfordC
    I have a 5yo BRAT boy that I am working on crate training. He would "explode" and freak out when I would try it. I then got a carrier (more den like than the wire crate) and put it in his "room". The first week, I left the door open. Then I started giving him treats by it, then inside it. Now, the only place he gets the "high value" treats is in his crate. I have left him in there for a little bit and he didnt "explode"- so it is slowly working. But with our older B's it takes more time. Get a soft bed or comfy blanket for it and some great treats (turkey, cheese, something really good) and only let her have them in there. good luck