I totally agree, Pat, I've had that experience myself - as you say the whole family should be on board that's why I always insisted on seeing the whole family when placing a pup.
Hi from mountain home idaho
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Hello from the UK
I'm new to the forum as well. How exciting, a new pup nothing matches it !!!! Have fun.
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Twshutika. I think you need to read about fanconi on this site and ask if the DNA testing has been done on the parents of the pup your about to get.
If it has, it should be on a website, not just verbal…
If Rose Marie has done this testing, I am sure it will be on the website, but as I don't know who the sire/dam are its hard to look it up.
Knowlege is power and you have to know that any pup you get from any breeder has had the testing that responsible breeders insist on. -
Since this is an Avuvi litter there will be more than the usual testing. As I told Charlie, the price is low bc it wasnt planned and it is African. The puppies should be UKC if I have guessed right about the father but I cant guarantee that. The price covers the testing. You wont find many breeders paying for hip OFA testing and CERF for pets. Some only Fanconi test parents.
It will all be in the contract.
As with all responsible breeders I provide support for questions and since these are Avuvis they may not be like domestics in some ways.
However, the help of a group is always good.
Over time I have found Basenji Companions to be the support group of choice.
Marie
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I should also add there is a yahoo group for the Avuvi owners which puppy buyers can join.
I havent done Fanconi yet bc I have been broke and out of work - I know bad excuse but that's the facts. People who have bought the last litter know this and have a clause in the contract covering this.
Finding fanconi alleles in two Congo dogs makes this more urgent than it was before, for me.
so pending is Fanconi for everyone and DNA testing for the dad of this litter. This will be happening before the pups go out.
Marie
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Thank you Rose Marie for this inforamation. I look forward to hearing about your DNA testing and how it goes.
You might not know, but I am going to be the owner of one of the latest african imports.
So, right now, we are doing all the testing required to be accepted. Eyes have been done, color issues and Fanconi are done.. not really sure what else is in the works, but its an exciting time for b's and breeders who will be using these dogs.Seeing Jo's dogs that are exceptional, its going to be great to watch all this happen. Making the basenji breed stronger…it's wonderful.
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Since this is an Avuvi litter there will be more than the usual testing. As I told Charlie, the price is low bc it wasnt planned and it is African. The puppies should be UKC if I have guessed right about the father but I cant guarantee that. The price covers the testing. You wont find many breeders paying for hip OFA testing and CERF for pets. Some only Fanconi test parents.
It will all be in the contract.
As with all responsible breeders I provide support for questions and since these are Avuvis they may not be like domestics in some ways.
However, the help of a group is always good.
Over time I have found Basenji Companions to be the support group of choice.
Marie
thank you for the update. charlie keeps me informed but i get lost in translation from you to her to me. . . hahaha. . .
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Since this is an Avuvi litter there will be more than the usual testing. As I told Charlie, the price is low bc it wasnt planned and it is African. The puppies should be UKC if I have guessed right about the father but I cant guarantee that. The price covers the testing. You wont find many breeders paying for hip OFA testing and CERF for pets. Some only Fanconi test parents.
I totally disagree with this. Responsible breeders should and DO test for Hips and CERF, pets placements or not…. Because any pup you place should be a pet first, show/performance second and/or if a breeding decision is made.
Bad hips can cause many problems for a dog, especially in their golden years.. and CERF?, well since we have PRA in the breed along with other eye concerns, would you want to place a pup that might go blind?
And noting also that if I am breeding two clear parents, I don't test the puppies before placement, but recommend that the new owners do so. That said, if there was any question, I would test them before placement. And if I breeding a clear to a carrier, I would test all the pups before placement or if breeding a clear to an affected, same thing.
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You wont find many breeders paying for hip OFA testing and CERF for pets. Some only Fanconi test parents.
I don't think I understand this statement. Do you mean that you won't find many breeders who test parents for Hips and CERF? Responsibly bred litters have health tested parents. It doesn't matter where the puppies are going. If you mean breeders paying for the puppies to be tested, I know I am not the only breeder who does CERF exams on every puppy before they leave. As for paying for hip x-ray, that is usually the owner's responsibility but even then there are situations where the breeder will pay. Certainly a buyer can find a breeder who is breeding health tested parents and doing puppy CERF exams prior to placement.
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You know I find it interesting I go into the data base and look up this "Avuvi" name and they are so closely related it really makes my stomach flip. I'm not trying to stir up trouble. But there are 20 names there and they are all so closely twined together.
Then there is another WHITE and red dog
http://www.pedigrees.zandebasenjis.com/cgi-bin/geneal.pl?op=tree&index=Z6k83F31&gens=5&db=basenji.dbw -
I hope all the puppies from these litters are tested for fanconi.
It would give the owners so much inforamtion they don't have now.
