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[tanza]

If a carrier, he will not come down with Fanconi. Based on his pedigree I really think you would be better of to just neuter him and have a great family pet. And especially if he is fighting already at his young age. Remember, intact males fight and most dog parks do not let in unspayed/neutered dogs for just that reason.

[pedro]

Hi, i was told that even if both parents are carriers'that it don't always mean's that they are fanconi affected! Or was i told wrong!!????

[pedro]

He got in a fight because the other dog came at him to fight him!!. He's going to defend him self but i had to stop it!!. He doesn't start any fights! And this is his first 1 !

[pedro]

Sorry tanza my computer is goofing up here i just got what you wrote after i sent you that!

[tanza]

@lvoss:

For the breeding in your dog's pedigree this is not correct. Bojak's Undercover Kojak in your dog's pedigree was bred to Undercover's Christmas Carol who is not tested. One dog from that litter is tested and is Fanconi Affected, Undercover Tri-Star Onyx, which means Christmas Carol was at best a Carrier.

He was also bred to Viento's Grace of the Jungle (untested) and one dog from that litter tested Affected and one as a carrier. So that means that Grace of the Jungle was at best a Carrier

[lvoss]

It is true that two carriers can produce Affecteds, Carriers, and Clears. So even if your dog's parents are both Carriers he may not be Affected. His fanconi status though is only one small part of the picture though and not reason enough to keep him intact.

The reason neuter him is that aggression is often aggravated by testerone so if he showing aggression and fighting with other dogs that is likely to escalate without you intervening. Neutering will lower the hormones and help but he also sounds like he is in dire need training. Also, breeders have worked really hard to improve temperament in this breed. There is no reason to breed a dog that is exhibiting temperament issues.

[tanza]

@pedro:

Hi, i was told that even if both parents are carriers'that it don't always mean's that they are fanconi affected! Or was i told wrong!!????

That is right, they are not always affected, however, it is not considered responsible to breed two Carriers. It is like play Russian Roulette and it is the dog that suffers.

[pedro]

Don't have that name in his pedagree!
(viento's grace ofthe jungle!. Please just verybody on here cross your fingers that he isn't a carrier or fanconi affected!!!!!!!1.

[tanza]

@pedro:

Don't have that name in his pedagree!
(viento's grace ofthe jungle!. Please just verybody on here cross your fingers that he isn't a carrier or fanconi affected!!!!!!!1.

Again if he is a carrier, he will not get Fanconi..

[pedro]

if he's a carrier he cant'get it, what does it mean if he come's back clear!??

[sharronhurlbut]

Pedro, re the dog parks, maybe you shouldn't take him down there, or wait until there are fewer or no dogs…Its not good your boy is fighting at his age.
I understand you didn't plan it but if its happening, then please, make sure your boys interactions with other dogs are good.
Has he had any gentle basic obedience classes? If not, its really a place to start.
Pet Smart, Pet Co and most vets know of one.

[pedro]

no classes yet but going to get him in one, and he goes down there and plays with other dogs all the time. !!i just dont really know what happen!!?? the guy did call me just to see if pedro had his shot, and i told him for sure is up to date on all his shot.!! but i did ask to if his was too . he said his dalmation's going to be fine. pedro got a mark under his eye and i'm useing nelsporin for it. and give it 3-4 days and it'll be heald up!. but man oh man they get meaner the a skunk!!!!!!!!!>

[sharronhurlbut]

Re your post carrier/clear.
Both those are good results.
Your boy will not get fanconi with either of those results.
I didn't go back and read, have you sent your testing in yet?

[pedro]

there has been up to 30 dogs there and this has never happen!! but the guys gog came at mine for no reason!!. he has never seen his dog even do that!!. pedro has gotten along with tea cup phooddles to malamutes!. all the dogs where really frisskey today. and i did mition that to the other guy, and he said he noticed that too. that they where more frisky then normal out there!. and said that might have been the reason.??

[pedro]

i sent the test yesterday!!. and i have to wait 2-3 weeks!!!!!!!!!!!!! i'm dieing here to know!!!.

[pedro]

wait monday i sent it in! it takes 3 day to get it in to start testing!!.

[tanza]

@pedro:

if he's a carrier he cant'get it, what does it mean if he come's back clear!??

Same thing he will not get Fanconi, but again just because he may be clear, doesn't mean that he should be bred

[pedro]

i'll see what happens after the test come back.! just because i don't want to show dont' mean i should'nt breed him. but if i do decide to i will check the females'pedagree ! thanks to everybody on here for helping me . just don't really know what i'm going to do yet!!!!????.

[tanza]

@pedro:

i'll see what happens after the test come back.! just because i don't want to show dont' mean i should'nt breed him. but if i do decide to i will check the females'pedagree ! thanks to everybody on here for helping me . just don't really know what i'm going to do yet!!!!????.

He is not AKC registered, you can not show him, so it doesn't matter. And you can not have any offspring registered AKC. Again all things considered, you really would be better served to neuter him and if interested in a show dog and later breeding, find a responsible breeder to be your mentor

[pedro]

the thang is no one seem to like me on her tomuch!! because my dog isn't akc reg.!!