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Such a thing as "Confinement Anxiety"?

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  • It makes sense to me. I have heard of other dogs with the same issue. Glad you found a solution. It's too bad he had to go through 4 homes to figure it out.

  • Sugar just hates to be confined to a crate. I've had her from a puppy, so I'm sure it was an anxiety thing. She would poop, eat it and scream for her life. She is slowly getting better. I've found the best thing I've done with her is to feed her in the crate. I first fed her with the door open, then closed and now finally shut tight. She has to wait until the other dogs are done their meals to get out, and she's getting better everyday.

  • Well, I don't know if it is claustrophobia, but we definitely have a dog who absolutely hates to be crated. He never worked himself up enough to urinate or defecate in his anger at being crated…but he did just about everything else, including destroying plastic crates, and his teeth. We found that he was reliable in the house when he was between 1 and 2 years old, and we never went back to crating him when we leave. He still must ride a crate in the car and at a hotel, and he barely tolerates it....

    Same thing, he doesn't care when we leave as long as he isn't in the crate..so it isn't separation anxiety per se...but I guess I would call it crate anxiety.

  • Manning had a similar experience with the crate. He started out just crying in the crate but then he turned into the little tasmanian devil inside the crate. He even started ripping up the plastic bottom piece in the crate (I now only have half of that piece left). So I did the same thing and left him out. I was a little nervous about leaving him out with the cats so I locked them in the room I keep all their cat stuff in. When I came home Manning had figured out how to open the door into the cat room and everyone was hanging out together on the rug at the front door. After that we discontinued use of the crate with no problems. I think its a great training tool but I'm with you…Manning is so much better without it.

  • I've always left mine loose in the house with a dog door out to the back yard. They're OK. The only time there was a problem was if there were health issues. I have a large thermal bed cover on the couch they crawl under and sleep. The couch is a cheap thing but I have another cover over that just in case of throw up. It's easy to wash.

  • Mine are all crate trained, but during the day I have a dog room with a doggy door outside so that they didn't need to be crated… Well, it didn't start out to be dog room...gggg, but works great....

  • When we just had Lexi, she refused to sleep in her crate. She would pee, poop, roll in it- throw it out every corner of the crate and have it all over her all the while shrieking like a woman being murdered. It was so unbelievable that such a cute LITTLE puppy could incessantly make that kind of racket. She eventually won the battle of getting to sleep in the bed… for a while.

    If Lexi is crated alone, she used to destroy anything she was close enough to touch. When my husband and his dobie entered the picture, we crated the two dogs together and they LOVED it. Neither would destroy anything and they always used each other for pillows. It was very cute. My parents have our dobie now as we moved to a tiny apt 700 miles away... so we went back to just one dog until last February when we rescued Miles.

    Miles howls like MAD when you crate him. He used to pee just by being inside the crate- before you even shut the door. But we have gotten him to the point (with treat training) that he will energetically get in his crate. We haven't gotten him to quit howling after he eats his treat though. Neither dog is destructive in their crates anymore, but I would definitely say that there are a lot of Basenji's with crate anxiety as well as separation anxiety.

    I would love to be able to leave our dogs out in the house, but I absolutely would never try it. I did that several years ago with Lexi & the Dobie and it was a very expensive mistake-- bye bye every set of blinds in the house- pulled down and shredded, bye bye entire couch-- back ripped open and all the fluff pulled out, bye bye duvet/comforter--holes galore. But those are just my dogs. So... they get the crate.

  • Keoki SCREAMS and tears up everything in his crate when crated alone. When he is in Jazzy's crate he goes right to sleep.

    My problem is: While she didn't complain about it at first, lately I hear her complaining at him in the crate. I don't think she is as crazy about sharing as he is anymore. Also, she is scheduled to be spayed this month, and I'm not sure he should be in there w/her for the days following surgery.

    I think I'll crate him alone for short periods in the day time and try to transition him to nights alone, but honestly, I am pretty sure it ain't gonna work, LOL.

  • She does need her peace and quiet after the spay…. and she most likely thinks he is getting to old and big to sleep with her... I used to have Maggii and OJ together as pups, but when they hit 12 wks, she kick him out... with a "get your own crate!"

  • Jazzymom, I know Jazzy will have to have her space after the spay so this may not be much help but what about an ex-pen?

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    @tanza it can work if you can set up your home to work with the pup... But if you can't ? (or find it easier not to)
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    @beth Try behavior training before you add another dog. This is going to take a bit of repitition over the better half of a morning, and a few days of follow up training -- but it works. Do whatever preperation you normally do to leave. Tell your dog that you will be "right back" (insert whatever command word/phrase you want to use). Then exit and lock your door. Walk around the corner of the building, then return. Praise your dog as you greet them. Wash, rinse, repeat, gradually increasing the amount of time you are gone. Start at a few moments, then trips to the store, etc. This reassures them that you will come back,. but you are actually teaching your pup the routine ques. It alerts the dog that you are preparing to leave (without them). Slightly different for when they get to go with you. Your dog will learn the difference ("Hey, if she picks up the leash, I get to go, too!"). I (personally) use bribes as a tell-tale. I give my pup a kong filled treat, or a frozen neck bone (her favorite) to chew on if she's staying at home. If I call her and pick up the leash, she's coming with. But she's ok, even on the rare occasion that I'm gone for 6 hours!
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    Ha, I know, forum posts are like a novel sometimes - except sometimes you don't always find out what happens at the end. There are lots of posts here where I'm like "well, what happened?!" The long and short of it: we have a "success story". He's always been kind of a strange dog, never doing things by the books. For his anxiety…...nothing I did really helped him. I originally put him on Prozac as a last resort, but overtime he just improved on his own; I know it's not due to the medication, because he's been off of it for awhile. He still hates confinement but he's learned that once he's in...he's not getting out. SO he basically goes through cycles where he'll whine for about a minute or two every so often (30 minutes to 2 hours) or so then goes back to sleep, until I get home. It gets better and better each time. One of our biggest issues I think was him being able to escape, and that fear was feeding off itself. In the beginning he would pull out all the stunts to try and escape, some of them working of course. Once I made it so he could not escape, the major destruction and psychological issues died down. I ended up putting wood pieces around the crate (as suggested above) and that helped immensely to fortify the area. He still does cry, and rip things up while I'm away...sure. But, as long as he isn't endangering himself, getting too worked up, or making a huge racket? It works. After we got that solved. I moved onto trying to get him to be ok in a crate - which has been successful. He goes into it fine, lays down and doesn't cry a whole lot, or try to escape. I think his 'anxiety' is not unusual, or inappropriate. Just a natural fear that dogs have of being alone, confined, and in a new space. I also didn't go over 30 minutes when I was teaching him as a puppy....big mistake. Things that have helped: Music, not having the light on, making the pen one giant bed (instead of allowing an area where he could stand), leaving random tissues around in the pen, not letting him out of the pen directly after coming home, giving a single cookie before leaving and returning if quiet, having the area be inescapable obviously, and brushing his teeth if he comes out of the pen right away. Things that didn't really help: thunder shirt (was working until he ripped it up), medication, mirror outside of the pen, leaving delicious food or toys inside the pen, DAP diffuser, etc.
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    Your situation sounds like mine was, when we had only Shaye. She had a serious case of separation anxiety and the minute we tried leaving, she would pee, wherever she was, along with screaming. Everyone told us to get her another b, and when we got Gemma, it was magic. So long as Gemma is with her, she is fine. Maybe Aries just feels more secure with Katie than with Petey. Is Petey less calm than Katie?
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    I'm having the same problem with my current basenji that gbroxon mentioned - it's not the crate at all. And working on solving SA (different from boredom) is tough, I've found. You just need patience and lots of it.