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  • tanzaT

    Hey, I have done many a "Knock it off" and "SHUT UP"… (or worse..ggg).... happens to the best of us...
    Of course mine look at me with disgust... and then continue on with exactly what they were doing... :-)

    Pat Fragassi

    Tanza Basenjis

    www.tanzabasenjis.net

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  • lvossL

    This is my first attempt at posting a link to a video, hopefully it works. This is Sophie and Rio playing yesterday.

    http://s176.photobucket.com/albums/w168/lrvoss/?action=view¤t=RioandSophiePlaying.flv

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  • lvossL

    While I was making the other movie, Nicky decided he would start a wrestling match so I decided to to make another movie.

    http://s176.photobucket.com/albums/w168/lrvoss/?action=view¤t=NickyandSophieJoinForces.flv

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  • QuercusQ

    Cool! yes, that looks like pretty typical play…it can get more rambunctious at times, and louder...but that is a good example...

    and is that Sally Jesse on the TV, or Judge Judy ;)

    Andrea Walters

    Quercus Basenjis

    NW Ohio

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  • lvossL

    I think the movie from yesterday is Judge Judy and the movie today has NCIS. :D

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  • tanzaT

    Great Video Lisa….. and yes that is so typical of play.... and I love that Rally was at the other end of the bed... with that "I am so way above all that!"... attitude!!!!

    Pat Fragassi

    Tanza Basenjis

    www.tanzabasenjis.net

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  • DukeD

    @lvoss:

    This is my first attempt at posting a link to a video, hopefully it works. This is Sophie and Rio playing yesterday.

    Thanks Lisa - These videos look typical of Duke & Daisy too. Except of course when there's real cause for concern - you know, the turn for the worse. I am attempting to upload a short video from my camera - so you can see my two going at it like yours. Haven't done it b4 either - so maybe it'll work. (don't know when I'll be done) :confused:

    Jill

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  • DukeD

    This is my first attempt at doing a video - Yesterday after work, as usual Duke & Daisy were doing their thing. At the end of the video - they must have hurt themselves locking teeth b/c they're licking nose & mouths.

    This video is quiet & mild. Not the growly kind of fight.

    http://s142.photobucket.com/albums/r115/dukerspooker/?action=view¤t=NipBrawlFirst.flv

    Jill

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  • QuercusQ

    Very cool! So, that is the usual? Or is there more noise usually? That was all play.

    So….do you have a digital video camera? Or is that a feature on your regular digi cam? I will have to do this....I could make a video of Querk screaming his head off for y'all.

    Andrea Walters

    Quercus Basenjis

    NW Ohio

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  • B

    Looks so familar!:D Yep Senji play for sure. Good job on the Vid Jill!!!!:D :D :D

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  • B

    :) Looks so familiar!:D Yep Senji play for sure:) . Good job on the Vid Jill!!!!:cool:

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  • DukeD

    @Quercus:

    Very cool! So, that is the usual? Or is there more noise usually? That was all play.

    So….do you have a digital video camera? Or is that a feature on your regular digi cam? I will have to do this....I could make a video of Querk screaming his head off for y'all.

    This is the usual - almost all the time when they get out of the crates. Also, they almost always have to do it in my presence. Wherever I am - they follow. It will usually get heated once or twice a day. They're heated now - just took another short video - will publish it - for kicks.

    I used my digital camera using the video setting. Downloaded it like the digital images and then uploaded it to Photobucket in the video index. I don't know how to edit it like Lisa did with the captions.

    I figured that Duke, being the bigger and stronger of the two was playing too rough with Daisy. But if you say it's normal . . . just being senji.

    Jill

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  • DukeD

    @Basenji_Boy:

    :) Looks so familiar!:D Yep Senji play for sure:) . Good job on the Vid Jill!!!!:cool:

    Thanks! I'll upload another video - This one is where they're being vocal and very noisy.

    Jill

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  • DukeD

    OK - This gets nasty. 1st one here is when my DH just came home, which started D&D's spat. (Also, please excuse my DH's reference to what's he's gotta do . . .) Hahaa - It's about the spat.
    http://s142.photobucket.com/albums/r115/dukerspooker/?action=view¤t=HeatedRex.flv

    This next one is close to the same spat - I don't know what's eating my kids today - They've been on & off with this more than usual. They'll work it out, right?
    http://s142.photobucket.com/albums/r115/dukerspooker/?action=view¤t=ae35aa1e.flv

    Jill

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  • QuercusQ

    The first one looks like a tizzy over who is going to get to greet daddy first and longest. It is definitely not play…but it isn't really fighting either. It looks like Duke is complaining that Daisy is jumping around while he wants to greet.

    The second one kinda looks like Duke doesn't want to play with Daisy...she gets the message and goes to find something else to play with.

    To me it looks like they are definitely sorting stuff out....that is fine, it sounds like complaining.

    Andrea Walters

    Quercus Basenjis

    NW Ohio

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  • DukeD

    Thanks for your take on these two. I didn't know they have complaints. You read them so well. They're both grumpy today. It occurred to me they need to get off the dock here at home. We will get them out and visit family tomorrow afternoon and thru the weekend. "A tired Basenji is a happy Basenji". (They're still doing it under my chair!) It's about bed time for everyone. ;)

    Jill

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  • B

    If you notice on the second vid Daisy's tail wags a little. I agree with Andrea, neither are fights in my opinion, just senji talk. It's when those exchanges go on longer than that and hackles are up you might need to intervene.

    Not sorry you added that second B are you Jill?

    They look like they're blending nicely!

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  • DukeD

    @Basenji_Boy:

    If you notice on the second vid Daisy's tail wags a little. I agree with Andrea, neither are fights in my opinion, just senji talk. It's when those exchanges go on longer than that and hackles are up you might need to intervene.

    Not sorry you added that second B are you Jill?

    They look like they're blending nicely!

    Right, not sorry. More like adjusting to two. Seems they've been having the so-called senji talk with complaints and very noisy play more often lately. So, I was concerned b/c honestly I thought they were fighting. So I should look for hackles before deciding to break them up - or unless the noise goes on for too long.

    Thanks for helping me figure this out. Certainly I trust your opinions and advice having experience with multiples. I am so glad we have Daisy - She's the sweetest little cuddler and she's learning fast. She can do no wrong when she gives me the look . . . you know it. ;)

    Jill

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  • B

    @Duke:

    So I should look for hackles before deciding to break them up - or unless the noise goes on for too long.

    I have this type of thing all the time with the larger, younger group. If I hear the heated 'Senji speak" go on for too long I holler for them to zip it…..before it escalates and let them know I'm not happy with the bickering. Hackles are a good sign someone is aggitated and you need to pay attention, but I wouldn't say it means they are going to fight.

    Our resident fight cat, when she starts staring and licking her lips.......I step in.;)

    I'm so happy for you that this is working out, it's really fun to watch them isn't it?

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  • QuercusQ

    I would guess that Daisy's "puppy liscense" is about to expire. Usually between 4 and 5 months, the adult dogs don't accept inappropriate behavior anymore. And they get on the puppies to "grow up and knock it off"

    We are going thru that here too. Our problem is that Ivy is very sensitive to anyone having more fun than she is…she a very low tolerance for silliness....so you can imagine how she feels about uppity young puppies! So she reprimands Ariel...and Ariel says 'oh, yeah...scr*w you!!!' And then it sounds like world war III is about to break out..until I soothe all feelings. I would video tape it if I could, so you could see what it looks like just before a real fight...but then I couldn't intervene ;)

    The other adults just complain to her, and about her...but don't really take it to defcon four...Ivy, OTOH...well...she is truly an alpha bitch....in every bad sense of the world.

    Sometimes Duke might need a break from Daisy...if you can separate them briefly, it might help.

    Andrea Walters

    Quercus Basenjis

    NW Ohio

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